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Rosalind

Rosalind Report 13 Apr 2008 09:20

Can anyone help me find which Daniel New would be mine please, I have both Daniels born 1792 parents Joseph New brn 1748 & Elizabeth Hide brn 1751, I have my Daniel marrying Lucy Wooten, but other's say he married Susannah Howard, Hope someone can help, Thank You
Roz

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 13 Apr 2008 09:33

Roz

Where was he born and where did he reside? , Do you have a date of death?

Rosalind

Rosalind Report 13 Apr 2008 09:37

Hi Jesse,
I think he was born Asbury, and died around 1871
Roz
Oh and I think they lived Berkshire Newbury

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 13 Apr 2008 09:42

For info

1851 England Census
Census & Voter Lists
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Name: Daniel New
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashbury, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: Newbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Oxford
Town: Newbury
County/Island: Berkshire




1851 England Census
Census & Voter Lists
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Name: Daniel New
Spouse: Susan
Birth: abt 1791 - Ashbury, Berkshire, England
Residence: 1851 - Fulham, Middlesex, England

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 13 Apr 2008 09:43

The Daniel who married Susan lived in Fulham in 1851.......

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 13 Apr 2008 09:48

How do you know who his parents are,
How have you worked back to find Daniel New, did you work back using his children or siblings?

There are the following Daniel's who got married in Berkshire

Daniel New 1844 Apr-May-Jun Wantage Berkshire, Oxfordshire
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Daniel New 1846 Jul-Aug-Sep Newbury Berkshire, Hampshire
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Daniel New 1849 Jan-Feb-Mar Newbury Berkshire, Hampshire
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Daniel New 1852 Oct-Nov-Dec Newbury Berkshire, Hampshire

Rosalind

Rosalind Report 13 Apr 2008 09:51

My Cousin found most of the info with Census forms,
I think she worked back via children..
A couple of other people have the Daniel Married to Susannah and apparently they got their info from Family Search..
Roz

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 13 Apr 2008 09:59

You need to be able to confirm the children that you have to enable you to know for certain which Daniel is which, just going on the census records is guess work a lot of the time and you can end up with the wrong family.

The only way to be certain is to buy cert's and confirm names etc and then work backwards.

Rosalind

Rosalind Report 13 Apr 2008 10:06

We have a couple of cert's, Daniel and Lucy's son John ( my great great grandfather ) I have his marriage plus death cert
Someone told me Family Search is only submiited records from other people would this be right??
Roz

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 13 Apr 2008 10:09

Ok, so what what detail does it give you on John's marriage cert

What is the date of marriage
How old is John
What is his fathers occupation

You can't take family search as 100% accurate hence the need for cert's to verify any family members

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 13 Apr 2008 10:12

Ok 1851 census, Daniel has a son called John age 18

1851 England Census
about Daniel New
Name: Daniel New
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashbury, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: Newbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Oxford
Town: Newbury
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Newbury
Sub-registration district: Thatcham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 272
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Keadle 31
Charles New 16
Daniel New 58
John New 18
Lucy New 56
Lucy New 21


But on the marriage cert what is John's occupation as well as Daniels

Rosalind

Rosalind Report 13 Apr 2008 10:29

On Johns wedding cert it has Daniel as a draper..

Rosalind

Rosalind Report 13 Apr 2008 10:32

Oh and the date of marriage was 28 march 1853 and age was " of age "
John was a policeman

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 13 Apr 2008 10:39

Ok the 1851 census below has Daniel New's occupation as Draper and John is down as a Cooper - could they have meant Copper lol


1851 England Census
about John New
Name: John New
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Daniel
Mother's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Newbury, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: Newbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Oxford
Town: Newbury
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Newbury
Sub-registration district: Thatcham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 272
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Keadle 31
Charles New 16
Daniel New 58
John New 18
Lucy New 56
Lucy New 21

As you have a rough idea of John's DOB if you send for his birth cert that will confirm his mothers name and then you know 100% which is which.
But I bet that your Daniel married Lucy

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 13 Apr 2008 10:43

Just confirm John's wifes name as I can't see his occupation listed as Policeman

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 13 Apr 2008 10:47

Not happy as later in the census John is still showing as a Cooper and what looks like Furnaceman...............But can't find a son John for Daniel New and Susan so it's still pointing towards Daniel and Lucy

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 13 Apr 2008 10:56

Roz got to go now but hope to be back later.

Will look in later and see if you have added anymore info or if someone else has helped

Jessie

Rosalind

Rosalind Report 13 Apr 2008 12:30

Thanks for your help Jessie,
This is what Is on the cert's

NAME John New

WHEN DIED 20TH April, 1906

WHERE DIED 7 Raymonds Almshouses Newbury

SEX male

AGE 75 years

OCCUPATION Metropolitan Police Pensioner

CAUSE OF DEATH Cerebral apoplexy ??

INFORMANTC. E. New Grandson present at Death
Newtown Road, Newbury



Rosalind

Rosalind Report 13 Apr 2008 12:58

NAME Joseph New

WHEN DIED 20th April, 1839

WHERE DIED Ashbury

SEX Male

AGE 89 Years

OCCUPATION Shepherd

CAUSE OF DEATH ?

INFORMANT Susannah New present at death – Ashbury (Daughter)

REGISTERED 30TH May 1839

Jessie aka Maddies mate

Jessie aka Maddies mate Report 13 Apr 2008 12:59

Hi Roz

Just popped on to see if anyone else had found anything, can't stay logged on though ( dinner in the oven )
Will be back on tonight about 7ish I hope