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Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	Sian	Report	16 Apr 2008 22:34
Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	i am trying to find my great great grandad's parents his name is walter charles holder born 1898 in leatherhead, surrey. he married Edith May Holder (nee Weller) born 1900 but are not sure of the date any information would be really helpful.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	16 Apr 2008 22:44
	M Weller Name: Edith M Weller Year of Registration: 1923 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's Surname: Holder District: Epsom County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 32 (click This will tell you their parents names
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Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	Sian	Report	16 Apr 2008 22:56
Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	thanks.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	16 Apr 2008 23:01
	You have saved this record to My Ancestry (Shoebox). You have saved this record to My Ancestry (People I'm Looking For). This record has been added to your shoebox. England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Walter Charles Holder Name: Walter Charles Holder Year of Registration: 1897 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Epsom County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 34 (click to see others
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	16 Apr 2008 23:09
	1901 England Census about Walter C Holler Name: Walter C Holler Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Relation: Stepson Mother's Name: Matilda E Gender: Male Where born: Leatherhead, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Leatherhead Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary and St Nicholas Town: Leatherhead County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Epsom Sub registration district: Leatherhead ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age Edith M Holler 6 Ellen M Holler 12 Ernest A Holler 11 Thomas Holler 9 Walter C Holler 3 George W Li??C?? 54 Matilda E Li??C?? 41 Elizabeth J Summersley 7 months View Original Record View original image This is him under a huge inkblot, just what you need ! It also interesting all the children seem to be stepchildren
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Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	Sian	Report	16 Apr 2008 23:15
Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	this is fantastic! thanks ever so much! had no idea about the step children would be intresting to find out about that. and about the Elizabeth J Summersley 7 months? seems to be the only Summersley there.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	16 Apr 2008 23:19
	widow marries George william sommersby Name: Matilda Elizabeth Holder Year of Registration: 1899 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Epsom County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 41 (click to There is a huge inkblot over their names I have put in a coorection on ancestry for future searches This is fun!!!
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	16 Apr 2008 23:26
	You have saved this record to My Ancestry (Shoebox). You have saved this record to My Ancestry (People I'm Looking For). This record has been added to your shoebox. 1881 England Census about Matilda Holder Name: Matilda Holder Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: George Gender: Female Where born: Cobham, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Fetcham County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Cannon Court Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Epsom Sub registration district: Leatherhead ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Holder 41 Matilda Holder 20 Henry Summerfield 21 View Original Record View original image
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	16 Apr 2008 23:28
	You have saved this record to My Ancestry (Shoebox). You have saved this record to My Ancestry (People I'm Looking For). This record has been added to your shoebox. 1891 England Census about Matilda Holder Name: Matilda Holder Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: George Gender: Female Where born: Cobham, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Leatherhead Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary and St Nicholas Town: Leatherhead County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Epsom Sub registration district: Leatherhead ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Holder 6 Ellen Holder 3 Ernest Holder 1 George Holder 52 George Holder 5 Harry Holder 8 Matilda Holder 30 View Original Record View original image
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	16 Apr 2008 23:31
	Marthas first marriage !!!!! All England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 Results You have saved this record to My Ancestry (Shoebox). You have saved this record to My Ancestry (People I'm Looking For). This record has been added to your shoebox. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Matilda Elizabeth Summerfield Name: Matilda Elizabeth Summerfield Year of Registration: 1880 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Epsom County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 19 (click
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Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	Sian	Report	16 Apr 2008 23:36
Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	right so let me get this Matilda Married someone had some children was then widowed and re-married george william sommersby they then had a daughter Elizabeth J Summersley? so who are Alice Holder 6 George Holder 52 Harry Holder 8 George Holder 5 Henry Summerfield 21 could they have died before the 1901 census?
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	16 Apr 2008 23:46
	George is her first husbandwho must have died before 1880 remarriage, so the other children are walters siblings Henry Summerfield is her brother because as you see her maiden name was Summerfield Tarahhhh!!!! Name: Matilda Summerfield Year of Registration: 1861 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Epsom County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page 17 but if you wait a bit I have found her I think age 10 in the poorhouse which means her parents probably have died AM I BORING YOU YET ????????
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	16 Apr 2008 23:51
	No they are in the poor house sorry they are at the bottom, with parents, brother Henry !!! so thats another 2 Greats to add on ! You searched for Matilda E Summerfield born in Surrey in 1861 The 1871 Census is provided in association with: Historical Records You have saved this record to My Ancestry (Shoebox). You have saved this record to My Ancestry (People I'm Looking For). This record has been added to your shoebox. 1871 England Census about Matilda Summerfield Name: Matilda Summerfield Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Pauper;i (Pauper) Gender: Female Where born: Cotham, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Epsom Town: Epsom County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Epsom Sub registration district: Epsom ED, institution, or vessel: Epsom Union Workhouse Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Ann Agnes 45 Lucy Apted 62 Sarah Arthur 67 Caroline Atlee 50 Ann Atteel 74 Mary Ayshire 2 William Barham 13 Thos Belsey 14 George Benton 15 Sarah Benton 46 Susannah Borer 94 Henry Buckland 13 Robt Bundle 1 6 months Sarah Bundle 24 Sarah Bundle 6 Willm Chas Bundle 4 months Ellen Callen 24 Harriet Chadbaud 67 Mary Charchoe 60 Elizbth Chitty 13 Fredk Chitty 11 Sarah Chitty 54 William Chitty 8 Sarah Cottey 84 Jane Crockford 54 Eleanor Crosswell 61 Alice Deacon 9 Caroline Deacon 10 Cornelius Deacon 6 Ellen Denyer 5 Henry Denyer 7 Letitia Denyer 9 William Denyer 3 Judith Donallo 93 William Eagles 12 Florence Fairbrother 2 Mary Fairbrother 38 Mary Franklin 10 Thos Franklin 7 Agnes Gadd 4 Jas Gadd 11 Jno Hackenson 11 Matilda Hackmann 13 Jno Hamphire 6 Elizbth Hampshire 13 Ellen Hampshire 7 Phoebe Hampshire 11 Sarah Hazel 53 Susan Hent 60 Martha Hicks 44 George Howard 2 Elizbth Jenden 35 Elizbth Jenden 6 Frances Jenden 3 Walter Jenden 9 Willm Jenden 6 months Fanny Ketley 10 Henry Knapp 13 Jane Lechener 9 Sarah Lee 69 Ann Lichener 70 Oliver Lichener 14 William Lichener 7 Ann Lighener 53 Jost Geo Matthews 4 Sarah Minnie 46 Thos Mullins 12 George Pink 7 months Louisa Pink 21 Mary Ann Pratt 24 Sarah Reed 76 Ellen Resley 12 Barbara Robandson 40 Jno Robinson 12 Hannah Rowland 65 Henry Sage 13 Josh Simmonds 7 Sarah Skinner 78 Fanny Smart 12 Henry Smart 11 Alfred James Summerfield 10 months Chastoke Summerfield 39 Henry Summerfield 11 Jno Summerfield 7 Matilda Summerfield 10 Now I have to go back to find who her parent Chastoke was another mis spelling !
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Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	Sian	Report	16 Apr 2008 23:57
Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	ooooo im getting it now! all so confusing :) your a really great help cannot thank you enough!
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	17 Apr 2008 00:04
	Aha Mother is badly writen Its Charlotte Sommerfield born c 1832 Field worker, married/ so not a widow where is Hubby? at war or in prison ?So if I cant find her father you may need to buy Henry or Martha/matildas birth cert to find out fathers name . Sorry I.m bombarding you with stuff but I have to keep up the thread . If I stop by tomorrow I will have forgotten it all !!
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	17 Apr 2008 00:07
	And Tarah again Charlotte and Husband! You searched for Charlotte Summerfield born in Surrey in 1832 The 1861 Census is provided in association with: Historical Records You have saved this record to My Ancestry (Shoebox). You have saved this record to My Ancestry (People I'm Looking For). This record has been added to your shoebox. 1861 England Census about Charlotte Summerfield Name: Charlotte Summerfield Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles Gender: Female Where born: Cobham, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Cobham County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Epsom Sub registration district: Leatherhead ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 58 Household Members: Name Age Charles Summerfield 29 Charlotte Summerfield 29 Henry Summerfield 2 Martha Summerfield 4 Sarah Summerfield 8 William Summerfield 6 View Original Record View original image
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Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	Sian	Report	17 Apr 2008 00:15
Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	this is all fantastic thanks 4 the help!
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	17 Apr 2008 00:19
	And here are her parents with another Walter listed as son ? You have saved this record to My Ancestry (Shoebox). You have saved this record to My Ancestry (People I'm Looking For). This record has been added to your shoebox. 1891 England Census about Charles Summerfield Name: Charles Summerfield Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Charlotte Gender: Male Where born: Cobham, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Leatherhead Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary and St Nicholas Town: Leatherhead County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Epsom Sub registration district: Leatherhead ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Summerfield 60 Charlotte Summerfield 59 Walter Summerfield 16 View Original Record View original image
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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 13,276 Send Message	Lindsey*	Report	17 Apr 2008 00:22
	You may have to kill me ! Igi shows another generation Cahrles father I think IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results \| Download --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Of course you will need to check everything Ive given you as I could be feeding you duff info! CHARLES SUMMERFIELD Pedigree Male Family -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JAMES SUMMERFIELD Family -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: CHARLOTTE RIDE Family Marriage: 03 SEP 1853 Cobham, Surrey, England
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Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	Sian	Report	17 Apr 2008 00:26
Member Since: April 2008 Posts: 13 Send Message	the name could have possibly been passed down! how would i be able to find out who fathered Martha's children alice, george, harry, ellen, ernest, thomas, edith & walter? as they all have the surname holder & not summersley which was her 1st husbands name??

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