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There are a some possible John Wood registrations in West Derby (which covers Kirkdale where the family were living in 1901)

No Potty - just the birth certificate for James - might try that though

Thanks Margaret but Mary's names is Davies not Jones
Thanks anyway
Paula

1891 census was taken on 5 April 1891, so somebody born August 1889 would only have been 1 on census night. But 1901 is correct at 11.

Do you have any of the children's marriage certs to confirm father's name?

This is the James Wood/Mary Jones marriage from BVRI:

WOOD, James Age: 40 Marriage
Wife: Mary JONES Age: 27
Marriage Date: 22 May 1887 Recorded in: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Luke
Husband previously married
Husband's Father: John WOOD
Wife's Father: John JONES
Source: FHL Film 1545921 Dates: 1868 - 1906 Note: Additional Data in Original Record

1901 - 1889 = 2?
Potty I agree that there is a big gap - apparently there is also a William in the family that rleatives recall - he may have missed the last census.....what are you thinking?
Paula

Yes Potty thats the family - it definately says carter on the birth certificate for little James....
It's just that FAther James doesn't appear anywhere! and I can't find birth registration for Robert or John!!!!!

Another son by 1901 and now Mary is a charwoman. A lot of the neighbours have jobs to do with the docks or ships - maybe James went to sea. Also, there is a very big gap between James junr and the new son:
1901 England Census
about James Wood
Name: James Wood
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Household Members: Name Age
James Wood 11
John Wood 1
Mary Wood 31
Robert Wood 13

If you James was born in October 1889, he would have only been 1 when the census was taken.

Seems a lot of people are having problems with Ancestry at the moment but it's working fine for me.

So, the James Wood marriage in 1887 is not the right one.

Is this the family in 1891:
1891 England Census
about James Wood
Name: James Wood
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Parent's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Wood 2
Mary Wood 35 - living on own means*
Robert Wood 3

Rather odd for the wife of a carter!

Glitter Baby / and all
This is the info on the birth certificate for the son....
1889
St Martin sub district
Liverpool
Column no 335
birth 27th August 1889 Blenheim st.
James
Boy
Father James Wood
Mother Mary Wood formerly Davies
occupation Carter
reg date 21st October 1889

The index ref was 8b p9 Qtr D

Hope this helps
Also anyone ever have probs with access to ancestry - I just cant get on it...
Thanks to all

The entry for Mary Jones same details as James Wood is on the complete index on Ancestry

Just for general info - if you can't find an entry on freebmd, you won't find it in Ancestry's partial index as they get there info from freebmd and usually not as up to date.

From Lancs bmd:
WOOD James JONES Mary Liverpool, St. Luke Liverpool 2111LP/5/335

You can download an order form from the site

Paula,

Post the details of the birth cert that you have and the census you have found the son on

M

Found the Mary Davies on June Q 1887 - 8b 193. So it's not her. Also double-checked James Wood for the same quarter on Ancestry just in case there were two of him but just that original one - 8b 64.

Wonder whether this is the right James Wood marriage.

Jill

Well there's no obvious Mary Somethings with a number even vaguely like 64 so that's not much help.

I'll see if Ancestry can help.

Jill

I've found something - looking on the actual indexes for 1887 June qtr there is a Mary Davies listed with vol 8b page 193 Liverpool - but she does not come up on a search of the transcribed entries on Ancestry.

I have a sneaky feeling that this might be the missing entry.

Can someone else check to make sure I've got this right please?

Athena

I've tried on FreeBMD putting in just the 1887 Jun Quarter and pulled up a list of all the people marrying that quarter. No Mary Davies though.

I'm going to have a look at any Mary Somethings in case she was marrying under another name ...

checking on FreeBMD that year & qtr is 47% transcribed so seems its still in progress, if you dont want to buy the cert then the next update of Freebmd may get your info