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Alice Marshall born Rochdale - her mothers name is Hannah , I have a choice of 2 - 1 born 1882 the other 1887 hopefully only 1 with mother as Hannah will come up
Thankyou
Deb x

1901 England Census
Name: Alice Marshall
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Rochdale
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochdale St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 36 Rumbold St

Occupation: Cotton weaver

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Castleton Further
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 180
Household Members: Name Age
John Marshall 50 - Blacksmith; Holmfirth, Yorkshire
Hannah Marshall 51 - Rochdale
Ada A Marshall 20
Alice Marshall 17 - Cotton Weaver
Frank Marshall 14 - Iron Turner's Apprentice
Fred Marshall 12

Siblings born Oldham.

Hi Debbie,

Found this one...
1901
Alice Marshall
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Rochdale
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochdale St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Rochdale
Sub registration district: Castleton Further
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 180
Household Members: Name Age
Ada A Marshall 20
Alice Marshall 17
Frank Marshall 14
Fred Marshall 12
Hannah Marshall 51
John Marshall 50


Regards Vera

1891
Alice Marshall
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Hollingworth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Ann Marshall 10
Alice Marshall 7
Frank Marshall 4
Fred Marshall 2
Hannah Marshall 41
John Marshall 41


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Regards Vera

Thankyou if thats the only Alice for that time with mother Hannah that has to be her , now just need the backward search on the familie(s)
Thanks
deb ;-)

Marriages Dec 1869
Boldock Harriet Rochdale 8e 125
>>>>GREENWOOD Hannah Rochdale 8e 125
LAMB Thomas Rochdale 8e 125
>>>>MARSHALL John Rochdale 8e 125

1871 England Census
Name: John Marshall
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Holmfirth, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Honley
Ecclesiastical parish: Honley St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Near Reins

Occupation:

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub registration district: Meltham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members: Name Age
John Marshall 62 - Huchster [????]
Hannah Marshall 61 - b. Holmfirth
Mary Marshall 14 - Woollen Dobbin Winder [19 on image]; Lockwood
George Marshall 17 - Silk & Cotton Dyer; Sth Grosland
Edward Marshall 14 - Wool Teazer; Sth Grosland




Looks like one of them was married before, probably John.

Bingo Ozzi ;-))

Now apparently she was abt 100 when she died around 1935 but I think according to the census she must have been more like 85 can her death/birth be seen at all

Ozzi
Is that 1871 right , maybe its me but how can they be younger in the 1891/1901 than in the 1871 ?

Hmmmm!

1881 England Census
Name: John Marshall
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Holmfirth, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 13 Carthage St

Occupation: Ornamental Blacksmith

Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Marshall 31
Hannah Marshall 31
James G. Marshall 3
Ada A. Marshall - 8 months
David Marshall 18 - brother, Blacksmith's Apprentice; Rochdale

I think (would say) I have the family in the '81 showing a David listed as brother of John so I gues at least thats 1 step nearer finding John's parents - me thinks

LOL , SNAP ! ;-))

This looks better, perhaps the other 1871 is his parents.

1871 England Census
Name: John Marshall
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Holmpoth, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Northowram
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 11 Bank St

Occupation: Smith at Engine Works

Registration district: Halifax
Sub registration district: Northowram
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
John Marshall 21
Hannah Marshall 21 - Rochdale

That did cross my mind too ;-)

Thankyou Ozzi & Vera
now to see if John can be found backwards hopefully with a brother David

Not found them together as John was married in 1871 & David wasn't born in 1861, but matching family.

1861 England Census
Name: John Marshall
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Holmfirth, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Gorton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 5 South St

Occupation: scholar

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 117
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Marshall 33 - Woollen Manufacturer on Commission; Holmfirth
Ann Marshall 29
John Marshall 10
Herbert Marshall 9
Robt Marshall 6
Martha Marshall 2
2 Elder children born Holmfirth, 2 younger born Manchester.



1871 England Census
Name: Thomas Marshall
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hepworth, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Broughton
Ecclesiastical parish: Church of the Ascension
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 6 River St

Occupation: Yeast dealer

Registration district: Salford
Sub registration district: Broughton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Marshall 43
Ann Marshall 40 - Hepworth
Robert Marshall 15
Bertha Marshall 11 [Martha???]
>>>David Marshall 9
Thomas Marshall 5
Harry Marshall 3

All children born Manchester except Harry, Rochdale

Aren't you lucky!

1851 England Census
Name: John Marshall
Age: 5 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Holmfirth, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Wooldale
Ecclesiastical parish: Holmfirth
Town: Holmfirth
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Back Lane

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub registration district: Honley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 112
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Beaumont 40 - Laundress; Askridge
Hannah Beaumont 7 - daughter; Holmfirth
Thomas Marshall 23 - son-in-law; Woollen Weaver; Holmfirth
Ann Marshall 18 - laundress; Holmfirth
John Marshall 5 Mo -



Marriages Dec 1850
>>>Beaumont Ann Huddersfield 22 331
Fawley Job Huddersfield 22 331
Hainsworth Ben Huddersfield 22 331
Hallas Mary Ann Huddersfield 22 331
Kaye Benjamin Huddersfield 22 331
>>>Marshall Thomas Huddersfield 22 331
Noble Mary Ann Huddersfield 22 331
Swallow Mary Ann Huddersfield 22 331

This is John's grandmother isnt it - woohooo , clever you ;-))
Now that doesnt happen all that often for me to get a fluke census taking me another step back

Now also if I have searched IGI right Hannah nee Greenwood's parents are Sarah & James