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You're very welcome!
I hope you find something
sylvia
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I hope so.
My side of the Cragg family in Australia seem to be a bit of an outposting. We don't seem to be related to any other Craggs here.
I would like to eventually track down living members of the family tree in the UK and elsewhere but I will leave this for now and concerntrate on compiling and documenting what has been given to me by everyone.
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Moorby Stephen 73 Lunesdale 8e 515
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Hi John,
Now, you asked about Edward Cragg's father - Well, I have a theory............
Please bear in mind that this is NOT proved, just something for you to work on !!!
I started from the census for Edward + Mabel in 1841 - Living in the same house, though not transcribed on Ancestry as being the same household, were :
Thomas Cragg age 75 not born in County
James Hodges age 20 " " "
I think we can safely 'assume' that Edward + Thomas are related - VERY possibly father + son, but it IS possible for Thomas to be an uncle??, so we need more proof !
I couldn't find anything on IGI to prove there relationship but as Thomas was not on 1851, I looked for a death on Bmd 1841 - 1851.
Unfortunately there are 2 deaths which fit - both in the same quarter and in the correct registration district:
Deaths Mar 1848
Cragg Thomas Lancaster 21 400
Cragg Thomas Lancaster 21 395
I checked back on 1841 but there was only 1 Thomas (apart from Edwards son, who did not die before 1851)
The other one who died could have been a child born after 1841, orsomeone from another area only there for a short time ???
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From there I looked for death details or notices etc., and found this
death notice: Guardian - Wednesday March 29 1848.
On the 15th March at Newton, near Kirkby Lonsdale, in his 87th year, Mr. Thomas Cragg, many years master of Hutton Roof School
(The age would put him born c 1862 - which fits to the 1841 census when ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 - he would actually have been 79 not 75).
I cannot find another Thomas Cragg of the correct age to fit with the schoolmaster anywhere nearby on 1841 so I think this MUST be the one with Edward !
Thomas did not have an occupation on 1841 BUT the James Hodgson who was with him was a Schoolmaster !!!
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If you 'google'.... put in "Hutton Roof" +schoolmaster +cragg .... you will find some details
Hutton Roof was about 3 miles from Kirkby Lonsdale - this is where Lancashire and Westmorland joined.
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Also if you go to the historical directories site:
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/index.asp
You will find a Gazette of Cumberland and Westmorland for 1829 - If you look through this you will find the names and occupations of the inhabitants of Hutton Roof and surrounding areas, which give details of the Craggs and the Hodges which you should be able to follow through.
There is also a farmer - William Cragg who would also be a relative.
I found all this this morning but had to go to a Wedding so couldn't do much work on it - it would be worth following James Hodgson a little way too , and those death certs may prove useful - hopefully the 'informant' will be James or Mabel, which may prove the relationship!
I will post this for now - you may wan't to work on it while I am asleep after my long day
Let me know what you think.
Regards,
Dea x
Please remember that this has not yet been proved but I think it is worth working on!!
Dea x
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Brilliant bit of work Dea - well done you.
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Dea
Your really are a great sleuth! Were you a detective in a past life?
I have decided to take the day off work and get stuck in.
A) Thomas Cragg
I think you may be correct in your assumptions.
I know from Australian records that Edward Blackburn (EB) Cragg was a teacher by trade. He initially taught at a Church of England School upon arriving here (I found this in some obits and parish records). There is a strong correlation there.
It is feasible that (EB) followed in his uncle’s / grandfather’s foot steps.
I shall investigate this further.
B) Edward Cragg
The parish records of March 1862 show EB preparing to return to England to “manage his father’s estate”. I do not have any records yet to establish an exact time of death for Edward Cragg, but I know he was on the 1861 Census. Therefore I should be able to locate his death on the Lancashire BDM with a +/- search of 2 years.
The next record I have is on the web:
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/records.asp?cat=024-wdwhelp&cid=10-19-2
(Not sure what is meant by: “North North of Thurland Castle, co. Lancaster, esquire.” Is this the name of someone or does it mean a partnership or a company?)
It’s dated 1873 and shows the conveyance of the estate formerly leased by Thomas Cragg. The size and location of the property (Cort Lot or Far Lot on Newton Moor in Newton township - 2 acres and 4 perches in occupation of Mr Thomas Cragg as tenant) suggests to me it may be the family home??
In any event it evidences the lease between the owners of the land and Thomas Cragg and the release between the owners and Edward Cragg in 1840. It could be that Thomas is either preparing for his retirement or has retired. This would reconcile to the 1841 census showing no occupation for him.
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John,
A quick look on the historical directories site tells me that North North was in fact a person:
Apparently the HUGE estate of Thurland Castle was sold around 1775 to Miles North - It later passed to his son Richard Toulmin North who then became Lord of the Manor of Tunstall (This included Newton, part of Whittington, and several other areas).
Obviously it passed down to North North who you can find on 1891 census living at Newton Hall - He was born in India c 1824.
You must have a read of these directories - they tell you LOADS about the various villages, families and the history of the area - you will really get to know what life was like then and how your ancestors lived.
Dea x
P.S. - Thank you Heather for those kind words.
Dea x
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