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Lania

Lania Report 12 Jul 2008 15:33

Can anyone tell me who Isabella Smailes married i know she had 6 children, she was born in 1859 Yorks, Middleham. I think she had a brother called James Smailes who i know married a Jane Harbottle and they had 3 children. I also do not know who James and Isabella's parents are can anyone help please.

Liz

Liz Report 12 Jul 2008 15:49

Looking at he censuses, Smailes looks like a married name - in 1881 Isabella (born 1859, Middleham) is married to William Smailes. Can you give any more info?

Lania

Lania Report 12 Jul 2008 15:57

Was James Smailes brother to William? if so i have worked it out. I know that Isabella had 6 children Emily 1889, Annie 1883, George 1881, John 1886 and Alice and Elsie who i dont know the exact year they were born in.

Ann

Ann Report 12 Jul 2008 16:28

alice and elsie were born 1895&1892 all her children were born darlington

Lania

Lania Report 12 Jul 2008 16:33

Thanks can you find out if James and William were brother and did they have any other siblings? Please

Liz

Liz Report 12 Jul 2008 16:40

Do you have any idea when and where James was born?

Lania

Lania Report 12 Jul 2008 16:46

James was born 1854 Durham and i believe he married a Jane Harbottle born 1851.

Liz

Liz Report 12 Jul 2008 17:00

I'm struggling here - keep coming back to James Smailes marrying Mary Ann Fenwick in 1876. He was born right year, right place.

Lania

Lania Report 12 Jul 2008 17:03

Did they have any children? I am really confused

Lania

Lania Report 12 Jul 2008 17:09

I have got James Smailes marrying a Jane Harbottle in December 1883 and she had a son John George Harbottle in December 1883 at Boldon south shields

Liz

Liz Report 12 Jul 2008 17:12

1881 census:
Name: James Smailes
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Tanfield, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Collierley
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: Square
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Mason

Registration district: Lanchester
Sub registration district: Tanfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hermon Smailes
James Smailes 27
Mary Ann Smailes 26
Ralph Smailes 4

Liz

Liz Report 12 Jul 2008 17:14

1891 census:

Name: James Smailes
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Tantohie, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Lamesley
Ecclesiastical parish: Lamesley
Town: Kibblesworth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub registration district: Harraton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice H Smailes 7
Harman Smailes 10
James Smailes 37
Margaret I Smailes 2
Mary Smailes 12
Mary A Smailes 36
Ralph Smailes 14
Robert W Smailes 6
Thomas Smailes 4


Or are these the completely wrong family?

Liz

Liz Report 12 Jul 2008 17:20

Think we're getting more and more confused!

Who is the most definite member of the Smailes family you've got? Let's go back to the beginning as there seems to be quite a few of them about!

Lania

Lania Report 12 Jul 2008 17:20

Yes that must be the family can you please try and tell me how thye are related to eachother. Thanks

Lania

Lania Report 12 Jul 2008 17:23

My nans mum was called Gladys Yule and her mother was called Eleanor Smailes born 1891 then i believe that her parents were James Smailes and Jane Harbottle.

Liz

Liz Report 12 Jul 2008 17:30

So this looks more like them?

1891 census:

Name: Eleaner Smailes
Age: 10/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Harton, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Harton
Ecclesiastical parish: St. Simon
Town: Harton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England



Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 52b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jno Geo Harbottle 7
Eleaner Smailes 10/12
James Smailes 50
Jane Smailes 40

And they're living next door to Ralph and Eleanor Harbottle - Jane's parents?

Liz

Liz Report 12 Jul 2008 17:35

1901:

Name: Eleanor Smailes
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: South Shields

Civil Parish: South Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: Harton All Saints
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 78
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 173
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Harbottle 77
Ralph Harbottle 76
Eleanor Smailes 10
Jane Smailes 50
John G Smailes 17

Jane has been widowed by this time.

Liz

Liz Report 12 Jul 2008 17:43

I'm thinking he was married before Jane;

1881:
Name: James Smailes
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Meldon Park, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Harton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: West Harton
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Colliery Cartman

Registration district: South Shields
Sub registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Smailes 41
James Smailes 40
Thomas Smailes 17



A Hannah Smailes died in South Shields aged 41 in June 1881.



Liz

Liz Report 12 Jul 2008 17:45

This could be him:

1851:

Name: James Smailes
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Meldon, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: High and Low Highlaws
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Morpeth
Sub registration district: Morpeth
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
James Smailes 11
Jane Smailes 48
John Smailes 7
Robert Smailes 13
Thomas Smailes 43
Thomas Smailes 17

Liz

Liz Report 12 Jul 2008 17:48

And this?

1861:

Name: James Smiles
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: North, Meldon

Civil Parish: Hadstone
Ecclesiastical parish: Warkworth
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Morpeth
Sub registration district: Bedlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Household Members: Name Age
Dorthy Hewitt 57
Frances Hewitt 51
Mary A Simpson 18
James Smiles 21