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Hi,

I have recently started researching my family tree on behalf of my Nanna. She tells me that her father (Robert Collins, b1902, married Catherine Scott who was b1903, both of Ancoats, Manchester) was one of eight children (parents David Collins b1883, married Mary Ryan b1894approx).

Three of the eight children were apparently triplets, born and died in approx 1926 (again, lived in Ancoats, Manchester). These triplets received the Royal bounty, which she tells me was very rare and only given to parents of triplets/quadruplets born alive. She does not know the names of these triplets - is there anyone who can help me find their names/DOB/Date of Death or any info at all about them?

Or is there a list anywhere containing the recipients' names of the Royal Bounty I can get access to in order to find what happened to/the names of these triplets?

If you need access to my tree to help with this or any further info, please let me know, I'm struggling! I'm new to this and so far have only mastered using censuses!

Thanks

Katie

catherine was the person that had triplet sibs- yes? no, Robert Collins... I think

Births Jun 1920 ??


Collins Annie Ryan Prestwich 8d 789
Collins Margaret Ryan Prestwich 8d 789
Collins Theresa Ryan Prestwich 8d 789

Well done Nikki.

????? makes this way off
Name: Theresa Collins
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1915
Year of Registration: 1916
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 1
District: Salford
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 136

Hi Minnie

Thanks so much for responding! I'm sorry if I wasn't clear:

The parents were:
David Collins (b1883)and Mary Collins (nee Ryan) (b1894 - I have no idea when they married)

The children were:
John Collins b1900
Robert Collins b1902
Edward Collins b1910
Mary Collins b1913
Nellie Collins c1916
the Triplets c1926

I don't know much else, but apparently Nelli dies in a fire at 5 years old.

Thanks

Katie

possibly not the right nellie

Name: Nellie Collins
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1915
Year of Registration: 1917
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 2
District: Salford
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 82 (

Marriages Dec 1901


COLLINS David Manchester 8d 454

Ryan Mary Ann Manchester 8d 454

Oh my god nicki I spent to long writing a reply that I have only just seen your message! ha ha! I'm not up to speed with this family tree business yet!

Well that does tie up - the triplets' mum was Mary Ryan, but would she not have been married to John Collins at this point and therefore would the kids not be Collinses?

I can't believe you did all that so quickly! Do I take those reference numbers to the Town Hall now to find the birth cert so I know its definitely them? Will their birth certificate show me who their parents were?

Thanks so much for your help! This is so interesting - family trees are like detective work! :)

seems a big gap to have triplets when your youngest is 10.

so you understand what nikki is meaning- those 3 births all appear on the same page, Collins births all with mothers maiden name Ryan

each cert will cost £7 - you cant just look at them & see the facts ( be great if you could) the certs will tell you - but not without buying them

Kids do have Collins as surname, Ryan as Mother's maiden name.

Nicki

Thanks you two - you are both brill! I work just near Manchester Town Hall so am going to go down there in the next few days - I will keep you posted! Am so intrigued now.

i don't know how you did that!

Do you have any tips for a novice to find births, marriages and deaths? I don't know where to start! I have viewed lots of censuses now and have got into that side of things, but have gone back to 1841 now and can't go any further - no more censuses left! :(

Thanks a million for your help!

have you looked at FREEBMD site? thats always worth a play with.

Now you know the triplets details have a play entering their details, just to confirm that you know what you are doing.

go to births- enter Theresa Collins, and click search - scroll down and you'll see it under 1920, in a muddy sort of pink colour

I used freebmd. I find the less info you put in the more successful you seem to be.

If it is the triplets, it should give the times they were born.

Fingers crossed. Let us know.

Nicki

Births Dec 1912
Collins Eleanor MMN Ryan Prestwich 8d 701

bit of a coincedence

Looks like
mary was born 1917
thomas born 1919

wonder who these two are???

Collins Eveline Ryan Preston 8e 703

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Births Mar 1928

Collins Jean Ryan Preston 8e 666

Another possible child


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Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
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Collins Mary Ryan Prestwich 8d 552

birth of nellie?

1905
Collins Nellie Prestwich 8d 423

cant tie a death to it- not in Prestwich anyway

Thank you all for all of the info!

Minnie - I think 'Eleanor' is who I have down as 'Nellie' - we thought it might be a nickname! So Mary was 1917!

Who is Thomas, Eveline and Jean though? These aren't names we've heard. Interesting! Does it definitely say 'Preston' as their place of birth and not 'Prestwich'' like the others?

Thanks again! :)

The other thing you need to be wary of is that they could have died and the death registered before their birth was registered.

Do you have any idea how long they lived for?

Nicki

Sorry they WERE born Preston - got too much sun today - ignore me - probably not yours