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The Suters of Portsmouth

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jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 19:29

I have been looking for this family in census returns for the last 2 days and am now admitting defeat and hoping someone can help.

In 1891 and 1901 I have the family Strong, mother Minnie.

There is an 1883 marriage between a George William Strong and a Minnie Suter.

Minnie appears in 1871 with parents Joseph(1831) and Rosina(1841) from Portsmouth and that is the only trace of Suter's that I can find in any censuses despite using wild cards and every spelling variation that IGI can come up with.

Can anybody help?

Thanks
Pam

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 10 Sep 2008 19:32

So are we looking for Minnie with family in 1881 ?

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 19:34

Looking for Minnie either with family or employed in 1881 and Joseph from 1841 to 1861

Thanks

Artbeat

Artbeat Report 10 Sep 2008 19:35

Name: Minnie Dorrel Suter
Year of Registration: 1862
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 354

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 19:36

Sorry - just realised my original post says Plymouth - it should read Portsmouth, I'll edit it

CLW2005

CLW2005 Report 10 Sep 2008 19:45

well they are not at the same address in 1881 that they were at in 1871!
The neighbours are still there though!

Christine

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 19:45

Thanks Richard - I can use that to track Rosina

Artbeat

Artbeat Report 10 Sep 2008 19:46

1881
I know the surnames wrong, but everything else fits.
Just thought i,d show you it.

Name: Minnie Wright
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Rosina
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Newington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 1 Devonshire St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Milliner

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: Trinity Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Wright 57
Minnie Wright 18
Rosina Wright 40


jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 19:47

I think that Minnie at least stayed in London because she married in Southwark

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 19:50

My goodness Richard - I'm impressed, how on earth do you get from Suter to Wright?

It looks very promising, as you say, everything else fits, I'll have a look

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 19:51

Also, on the 1871, Rosina is a milliner

CLW2005

CLW2005 Report 10 Sep 2008 19:53

hey Pam - maybe your ancestor had a sense of humour and when the enumerator asked for the surname - his wife probably said 'Mr RIGHT'!!

Christine

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Sep 2008 19:53

Could Joseph have died and Rosina remarried?
In 1881 there's a Rosina Wright married to Joseph Wright. She was born 1841 Portsmouth and has a daughter Minnie born 1863 Portsmouth. It doesn't say stepdaughter and her name is listed as Wright but I've seen it happen before that they take stepfather's name then use natural father's name at marriage.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Sep 2008 19:54

Oh shoot! I was too slow in typing, Richard beat me to it!

Artbeat

Artbeat Report 10 Sep 2008 19:56

I can not find minnie wright on another cencus or a birth.

richard.

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 19:58

The only thing about that 1881 census is that Joseph comes from Saffron Walden rather than Portsmouth and is 7 years too old.
Perhaps Joseph S died and Rosina married another Joseph.

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 10 Sep 2008 20:01

Rosina with her parents...perhaps there never was a Joseph Suter?


1861 England Census
about Rosina Suter
Name: Rosina Suter
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Emma M
Gender: Female
Where born: Portree, Hampshire, England...image treads Portsea

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Newington
Sub registration district: Trinity Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 204
Household Members: Name Age
Cecilia Suter 22..Dau..Milliner
Charles Suter 48..Head..Blind Maker
Emma M Suter 49..Wife
Henry W Suter 12..Son
Rosina Suter 20..Dau..Milliner

All born in Portsea

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 20:01

I like that idea Christine!

Snap Margaret

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Sep 2008 20:01

Joseph Suter in 1871 doesn't match Joseph Wright in 1881. Suter was born 1831 Portsmouth and was a (something?) traveller. Wright was born 1824 Essex, Saffron Wal. and was a watch maker. I believe Rosina must have remarried but I can't find a record.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Sep 2008 20:04

But, but, but there's a Joseph Suter on the 1871 census!