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The Suters of Portsmouth

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jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 20:34

That's part of the fun Richard :)

Researching:
Basébé, Butcher, Johnson, Dubber (London) Milford (Devon and Cornwall) Shardlow, Hague, Holmes, Capenhurst (Derbyshire) Smith, Jennnings, Keylock, Bullock (Gloucestershire)

CLW2005

CLW2005 Report 10 Sep 2008 20:33

All my husbands family were Wrights from Portsea,
Portsmouth!
Don't know of a Rosina though!

Christine

Artbeat

Artbeat Report 10 Sep 2008 20:32

Good luck pam, Hope i didn,t throw to big a spanner in the works.

richard

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 20:29

I see 3 people have Rosina Wright born Portsmouth 1842 in their trees. If all else fails I'll see if they can shed any light.

Researching:
Basébé, Butcher, Johnson, Dubber (London) Milford (Devon and Cornwall) Shardlow, Hague, Holmes, Capenhurst (Derbyshire) Smith, Jennnings, Keylock, Bullock (Gloucestershire)

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 20:26

Thanks everyone - now I'm really intrigued. I can't wait for those certificates to arrive so that I know who I'm really looking for on the earlier censuses

Researching:
Basébé, Butcher, Johnson, Dubber (London) Milford (Devon and Cornwall) Shardlow, Hague, Holmes, Capenhurst (Derbyshire) Smith, Jennnings, Keylock, Bullock (Gloucestershire)

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 20:17

Christina - do you mean that she had Minnie out of wedlock and she invented Joseph as a 'pretend' husband?

I'll have to wait for the arrival of Minnie's birth certificate to try that theory out. Interesting possibility.

Researching:
Basébé, Butcher, Johnson, Dubber (London) Milford (Devon and Cornwall) Shardlow, Hague, Holmes, Capenhurst (Derbyshire) Smith, Jennnings, Keylock, Bullock (Gloucestershire)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Sep 2008 20:15

Bin there, dun that. Pam, I couldn't find either one either.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 20:13

All those details, both 1881 and 1891, are right for Rosina but I've just been looking for Joseph S's death and Joseph W and Rosina's marriage between 1871 and 1881 and can't find either

Researching:
Basébé, Butcher, Johnson, Dubber (London) Milford (Devon and Cornwall) Shardlow, Hague, Holmes, Capenhurst (Derbyshire) Smith, Jennnings, Keylock, Bullock (Gloucestershire)

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 10 Sep 2008 20:12

If Rosina gave the details to the enumerator might she have made him up, to save face?

Have you got Minnie's birth cert?

Does it give Joseph Suter as father?

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 20:07

Christina if that's my Rosina it would either mean that a Suter married a Suter or her husband took her name - did they do that?

Researching:
Basébé, Butcher, Johnson, Dubber (London) Milford (Devon and Cornwall) Shardlow, Hague, Holmes, Capenhurst (Derbyshire) Smith, Jennnings, Keylock, Bullock (Gloucestershire)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Sep 2008 20:04

But, but, but there's a Joseph Suter on the 1871 census!

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Sep 2008 20:01

Joseph Suter in 1871 doesn't match Joseph Wright in 1881. Suter was born 1831 Portsmouth and was a (something?) traveller. Wright was born 1824 Essex, Saffron Wal. and was a watch maker. I believe Rosina must have remarried but I can't find a record.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 20:01

I like that idea Christine!

Snap Margaret

Researching:
Basébé, Butcher, Johnson, Dubber (London) Milford (Devon and Cornwall) Shardlow, Hague, Holmes, Capenhurst (Derbyshire) Smith, Jennnings, Keylock, Bullock (Gloucestershire)

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 10 Sep 2008 20:01

Rosina with her parents...perhaps there never was a Joseph Suter?


1861 England Census
about Rosina Suter
Name: Rosina Suter
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Emma M
Gender: Female
Where born: Portree, Hampshire, England...image treads Portsea

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Newington
Sub registration district: Trinity Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 204
Household Members: Name Age
Cecilia Suter 22..Dau..Milliner
Charles Suter 48..Head..Blind Maker
Emma M Suter 49..Wife
Henry W Suter 12..Son
Rosina Suter 20..Dau..Milliner

All born in Portsea

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 19:58

The only thing about that 1881 census is that Joseph comes from Saffron Walden rather than Portsmouth and is 7 years too old.
Perhaps Joseph S died and Rosina married another Joseph.

Researching:
Basébé, Butcher, Johnson, Dubber (London) Milford (Devon and Cornwall) Shardlow, Hague, Holmes, Capenhurst (Derbyshire) Smith, Jennnings, Keylock, Bullock (Gloucestershire)

Artbeat

Artbeat Report 10 Sep 2008 19:56

I can not find minnie wright on another cencus or a birth.

richard.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Sep 2008 19:54

Oh shoot! I was too slow in typing, Richard beat me to it!

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Sep 2008 19:53

Could Joseph have died and Rosina remarried?
In 1881 there's a Rosina Wright married to Joseph Wright. She was born 1841 Portsmouth and has a daughter Minnie born 1863 Portsmouth. It doesn't say stepdaughter and her name is listed as Wright but I've seen it happen before that they take stepfather's name then use natural father's name at marriage.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

CLW2005

CLW2005 Report 10 Sep 2008 19:53

hey Pam - maybe your ancestor had a sense of humour and when the enumerator asked for the surname - his wife probably said 'Mr RIGHT'!!

Christine

jerseylily

jerseylily Report 10 Sep 2008 19:51

Also, on the 1871, Rosina is a milliner

Researching:
Basébé, Butcher, Johnson, Dubber (London) Milford (Devon and Cornwall) Shardlow, Hague, Holmes, Capenhurst (Derbyshire) Smith, Jennnings, Keylock, Bullock (Gloucestershire)

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