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Matthew you need a copy of George Delves marriage cert for his fathers info.

Interesting that you plump for the death in Halstead Essex rather than the Macclesfield one.

Margaret and David

I ve gone thru your research and it s revealed the same problems that i m having , tho you got there in half an hour

So I have gone back slowly

I have my grandads 1923 marriage cert, which takes me to George Edwin Prince silk mill manager.

My grandads birth cert which gives me George Edwin Prince and Elizabeth (formerly Kenworthy) as parents.Nov 2 1894 of 1 parsonage st , halstead

Marriage cert of 25 aug 1886, parish church of prestbury , cheshire, of George Edwin Prince,23, to elizabeth Kenworthy,23, Fathers George Delves Prince, weaver and samuel Kenworthy , umbrella manufacturer (witness henrietta kenworthy)

then I have a death cert of George Prince (no middle name) 4 oct 1895 aged 66 yrs of 14 Bridge Street Macclesfield (district : sutton cheshire)witnessed by son george edwin prince of 1 mount pleasant villa, aprsonage st, halstead essex

Matt

...and finally

Iike the wedding in in sep 1849 because i was begining to think the "wife " was called elizabeth ann and both were being used as a first name ...but still no children till 1863...tho i do have an early needle work sampler that reads (the picture is of adam and eve);
"on the almighty power;
the lofty concave of vast expanse
could never be the effect of giddy chance;
those beauteous and amazing globes of light.
no power could make, that was not infinite
But when he spake, each atom of this frame,
From the dark womb of empty nothing came"

prob E A Prince , 20 years trying to make children ..it al fits ..thanks .sorry a bit teary

david

i m so new to this ,and head in my papers, that i did nt see you had posted at 12.10...apologies

yes i think that marriage in sep 1849 geo delves and (eliz ann dean?) looks good

had nt used roots web before - thanks to you both

death - well i had great grandfather witnessing death of what i assume was father...whats the chances thre was another george prince who was nt his father ? it must have happened

Matt x

Matthew, I'm just fascinated by the sampler that you have, what a treasure!

margaret or david

if your listening ;
william prince 1801 and elizabeth unknown, macclesfield

they dont seem to turn up on the 1851 census ; are the both dead by then ?

i ll go look on free BMD

Mx

Matt, I think I had posted the 1851 census where they were mistranscribed as Prime.
Oops, sorry, senior moment again. It was George & Elizabeth I posted.
No, can't find William or Elizabeth in 1851 or their children other than Samuel who was living with George & Elizabeth. They couldn't all have died, surely?

I ve got deaths for 2 william princes in maaclefield in mar 1842 and mar 1845 and a death of eliz prince , damn forgot date , also before 1851 census

I ve ordered one of the death certs

2 deaths prob father and son ? we ll see

Also access to another tree where william dies in 1851

I m waiting now for gEorge delves marriage cert and I can proceed with sureness