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I ve got deaths for 2 william princes in maaclefield in mar 1842 and mar 1845 and a death of eliz prince , damn forgot date , also before 1851 census

I ve ordered one of the death certs

2 deaths prob father and son ? we ll see

Also access to another tree where william dies in 1851

I m waiting now for gEorge delves marriage cert and I can proceed with sureness

Matt, I think I had posted the 1851 census where they were mistranscribed as Prime.
Oops, sorry, senior moment again. It was George & Elizabeth I posted.
No, can't find William or Elizabeth in 1851 or their children other than Samuel who was living with George & Elizabeth. They couldn't all have died, surely?

margaret or david

if your listening ;
william prince 1801 and elizabeth unknown, macclesfield

they dont seem to turn up on the 1851 census ; are the both dead by then ?

i ll go look on free BMD

Mx

Matthew, I'm just fascinated by the sampler that you have, what a treasure!

david

i m so new to this ,and head in my papers, that i did nt see you had posted at 12.10...apologies

yes i think that marriage in sep 1849 geo delves and (eliz ann dean?) looks good

had nt used roots web before - thanks to you both

death - well i had great grandfather witnessing death of what i assume was father...whats the chances thre was another george prince who was nt his father ? it must have happened

Matt x

...and finally

Iike the wedding in in sep 1849 because i was begining to think the "wife " was called elizabeth ann and both were being used as a first name ...but still no children till 1863...tho i do have an early needle work sampler that reads (the picture is of adam and eve);
"on the almighty power;
the lofty concave of vast expanse
could never be the effect of giddy chance;
those beauteous and amazing globes of light.
no power could make, that was not infinite
But when he spake, each atom of this frame,
From the dark womb of empty nothing came"

prob E A Prince , 20 years trying to make children ..it al fits ..thanks .sorry a bit teary

Margaret and David

I ve gone thru your research and it s revealed the same problems that i m having , tho you got there in half an hour

So I have gone back slowly

I have my grandads 1923 marriage cert, which takes me to George Edwin Prince silk mill manager.

My grandads birth cert which gives me George Edwin Prince and Elizabeth (formerly Kenworthy) as parents.Nov 2 1894 of 1 parsonage st , halstead

Marriage cert of 25 aug 1886, parish church of prestbury , cheshire, of George Edwin Prince,23, to elizabeth Kenworthy,23, Fathers George Delves Prince, weaver and samuel Kenworthy , umbrella manufacturer (witness henrietta kenworthy)

then I have a death cert of George Prince (no middle name) 4 oct 1895 aged 66 yrs of 14 Bridge Street Macclesfield (district : sutton cheshire)witnessed by son george edwin prince of 1 mount pleasant villa, aprsonage st, halstead essex

Matt

Matthew you need a copy of George Delves marriage cert for his fathers info.

Interesting that you plump for the death in Halstead Essex rather than the Macclesfield one.

okay I have a needlework sampler from my uncles house by Elizabeth Ann Prince dated 1852

but this item gives the wrong date of birth for my george edwin prince who I believe was born 27 nov 1863

i ll go find my documents

Margaret and David

Your fab ! Sorry I m a novice to this posting idea and did nt know such fab experts were out there

I know my great grandfather was George Edwin Prince, b 27 nov 1863 + d. 11 jan 1947 + m. Elizabeth Kenworthy 26 aug 1886 (then m. Florence, no issue). D. at 99 chapel st leigh. M. at prestbury church chester 1886.

I know his father was George Delves Prince,at sons marriage described as "weaver"

That s the end of certain information.

I have never found any record that contained the middle name ( if i remember correctly) .So I believe he is GeorgePrince b. 1828 -29 + died 10 oct 1895 at 1 mount pleasant villa, aprsonage st, halstead essex + 1841 census park lane, macclesfield in the parish of prestbury church , silk piecer. Now did the census contain his middle name ? i ll look for the records....

Matt

Just thinking the same thing, David. Time to quit? Until we hear from Matthew?

IGI

Mary Ann Prince -Christening: 09 MAR 1826 St Michael'S, Macclesfield, Cheshire parents William and Elizabeth

JOHN PRINCE Christening: 11 APR 1830 Christ Church, Macclesfield, Cheshire parents William and Elizabeth

Deaths Dec 1877 Macclesfield 8a 102

PRINCE Elizabeth 45

Deaths Dec 1895 Macclesfield 8a 127

Prince George aged 66

All this and we still don't know what Matthew wanted.

1841 census
Park Lane, Macclesfield, Cheshire
Will'm Prince, 40, silk weaver
Elizabeth, 40, silk weaver
Mary, 15, silk piecer
*George, 13, silk piecer
John, 11, silk piecer
Edwin, 9
Samuel, 6
William, 4
All born in county.

poss

Marriages Sep 1849 Macclesfield 19 118

Prince George Delves
Dean Elizabeth Ann Smallwood or
Goodwin Elizabeth

Don't know about that marriage, David, seems they were already married in 1851. (Curious no children until 1863.)

1851 census (mistranscribed Prime but original is Prince.
Booths Buildinge, Macclesfield, Cheshire
George Prince, head, 23, silk weaver
Elizabeth, wife, 20
Samuel, brother, 16, silk weaver
All born Macclesfield.
(You're correct, David, Samuel is George Sr.'s brother.)

poss marriage

Marriages Dec 1858 Macclesfield 8a 190

Prince George
Slater Elizabeth

1861 census
151 London Rd., Macclesfield, Cheshire
George Prince, head, 33, silk weaver
Elizabeth, wife, 30, silk weaver
Both born Macclesfield.

Margaret

Just looked at the 1881 extract and it does match what the familysearch transcription said.

Wonder if it's mixed up and Samuel and Ann were a couple and George was with his son George E. Perhaps Samuel was George seniors brother.