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William PORTER 1782-1849 - HMS Amethyst

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was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 3 Oct 2008 15:09

Since they changed the a2a website, it is very difficult to search and to find the info from the hits. I just put Amethyst into the search box and this entry came up.
Information relating to document ref. no. R 304a/49

Name: Porter, William Address: Amethyst Green, Drigg, Copeland, Cumberland Occupation: Master in royal navy Contents: will. [Lancashire Record Office, Western Deaneries of the...]

Arthur

Arthur Report 4 Oct 2008 06:02

Kay,

If the PORTER tree you refer to is titled ...
"A PEDIGREE OF THE FAMILY OF PORTER OF BOLTON, CUMBERLAND" Published 1911, this is MY family.

Paula - you might like to look at this too
look here:
www.edenlinks.co.uk/RECORDS/PORTER.HTM

Arthur

Arthur Report 6 Oct 2008 13:27

Found, courtesy of Bryan a photo of the tombstone of William Jr - "only son of the late Capt William Porter, Master, RN"
William Jr's wife Barbara Ann nee Cooke, 2nd son William Cooke (Porter?), aged 3yrs 8 mths 4/9/1872 (b.12/1868 or 1/1869), Eldest son John Tyson Porter d. 30/7/ poss 1908/9, Walton (Porter?), died 1919 aged 4? yrs (40) Abram (Porter), d.1941 aged 88 AND Sarah Brockbank, for 35 yrs, friend & servent to Abram Porter d.25/11/1932 aged 50 yrs also buried there.
Anyone have access to the 1871 census (assuming there was one) to see where infant William was living.
or suggestions for Capt William
. - This isnt him -too late- but is it possible for someone local to take a look - ----- National Museums Liverpool: Maritime Archives and Library-- Captain William Porter and Mrs Porter: journals kept on voyages from Liverpool to Bombay, San Francisco and Australia 1864-78 (DX/2131) willing to pay costs.

Thanks for all the stuff so far - you have been great.
Ta
AJ.

Arthur

Arthur Report 23 Nov 2009 05:56

Following on --- can anyone comment on the HMS Amethyst role in the Action of 6 April 1809 as part of the blockade of Brest, France during the Napoleonic Wars and her return to England?

Thank You

Arthur

Staffs Col

Staffs Col Report 23 Nov 2009 16:39

The Action of 6 May 1809 was a small naval battle fought between the French frigate Niémen and several British frigates, principally HMS Amethyst, as part of the blockade of Brest, France during the Napoleonic Wars. During the Wars, a central part of British strategy was to isolate French ports from international trade in an attempt to both restrict French imports of food and military supplies and simultaneously to damage the French economy. To achieve this, British warships maintained a constant vigil off the French coastline, attacking ships that attempted to enter or leave French ports. Despite the threat that their ships faced, communication and the transfer of supplies between France and her colonies was vital to the French war effort, and the French Navy made constant attempts to evade the patrolling British squadrons. In late 1808, a significant French squadron was deployed to Île de France to disrupt British trade in the Indian Ocean. This force required reinforcement and supply from France, and periodic attempts were made to reach the isolated convoy with new frigates, the first of which was Niémen.
Niémen was a new and fast ship, carrying 40 guns and a large quantity of much needed naval supplies. However, in order to leave her home port of Brest, it was necessary to avoid contact with the British frigates that constantly watched the entrance to the harbour in search of enemy movement. In April 1809, these ships were HMS Amethyst and HMS Emerald, loosely supported by other patrolling ships and tasked specifically with the capture of Niémen, acting on intelligence passed on by the Admiralty. When Niémen emerged on 5 April, she was immediately spotted and chased. Amethyst retained contact throughout the night and brought the French ship to action on the morning of 6 April. The ensuing battle was fiercely contested and both ships suffered severe damage and heavy casualties.
While the outcome of the battle was still undecided, a second British frigate arrived, HMS Arethusa. Outnumbered, the French captain saw no alternative and surrendered his ship. The late arrival of Arethusa, under Captain Robert Mends who claimed the victory for himself, sparked a furious argument that developed into a lasting animosity between Mends and Captain Michael Seymour of Amethyst. The failure of Niémen to reach Île de France also had serious repercussions for the French squadron there. With naval supplies severely limited, their ability to operate at sea for long periods of time was hampered and by late 1810 few of their vessels were still seaworthy.

Staffs Col

Staffs Col Report 23 Nov 2009 16:41

Aside from Captain Mends on Arethusa, casualties were severe on both sides. Amethyst had eight killed and 37 wounded from a crew of 222, while the French ship lost 47 killed and 73 wounded from a crew of 339 Recriminations among the British officers began within minutes of the French surrender: Mends took possession of Niémen and sent a note to Seymour informing him that he had seized the valuable French nautical charts and the French captain's personal stores. The note also requested that Seymour send back Arethusa's surgeon, who had gone aboard Amethyst to assist with the wounded, so that Mends could be ready to leave without notice. Seymour, who was still effecting hasty repairs and dealing with his casualties, responded angrily, forcing Mends to back down and return the stores. Seymour was also annoyed by Mends' late arrival, which meant that Arethusa was entitled to half the prize money from the captured frigate without having done any of the fighting. Repairs were completed on 7 April and Amethyst and Niémen limped back to Plymouth, arriving on 13 April.

On 15 February 1811, while anchored in Plymouth Sound, Amethyst was caught by a heavy storm and blown on shore. Although no men were lost in the wreck and many of the ship's stores were salvaged, the ship was too badly damaged to ever sail again.The Captain (by then a Captain Jacob Walton) and a number of the crew were found negligent in an ensuing court martial.

Arthur

Arthur Report 26 Nov 2009 04:10

Thank you for that,

Any idea if a crew list exists for the Amethyst at that time?

Arthur