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Linda,
I don't know how to say thank you enough!
I really appreciate what you have done and set me on the way - fantastic.
I will get the certificate and go from there.
Incidentally, I have a feeling that Mary jane is missing from 1901 census because she may have already been married! The reason I say that is my Great grandad (the one I started trying to find in the first place - William Williams) had at least one child - my grandfather Walter Glyn in 1903 and I don't think he was the eldest.
Thanks Again
bob

Sadly the possible death of Miriam..

Name: Miriam Davies
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 73
District: St Asaph
County: Denbighshire, Flintshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 383 (click to see others on page)


and possibly John...

Name: John Davies
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 78
District: St Asaph
County: Denbighshire, Flintshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 225 (click to see others on page)

I will keep on the look out for the Williams family when I am looking for mine...needles haystacks come to mind lol

However I think the only way to go now is to order the marriage cert of William Williams and Mary Jane Davies.

You can order online at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ it will cost £7.

Linda

1901 census..

Name: John Davies
Age in 1901: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Miriam
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanddulas, Denbighshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Abergele
Ecclesiastical parish: Abergele St Michael and Pensarn
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: St Asaph
Sub registration district: Abergele
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
John Davies 70
Miriam Davies 62

Linda

1891 census...

Name: John Davies
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Miriam
Gender: Male
Where born: Llandulas, Denbighshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Abergele
Ecclesiastical parish: Abergele
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: St Asaph
Sub registration district: Abergele
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Davies 19
John Davies 60
Martha K Davies 12
Miriam Davies 52

No Mary Jane though...where has she vanished to !!

Linda

Oh wow - I am impressed Linda.
At same time (because I am still learning this) I very much slowere think I have found their entry in 1881 wales census at 5 Rallt Wen Abergele - shows Miriam as 38 and John at 51 with Bessie, Mary, Emma and Martha.
Can't tell you how grateful I am!
thanks
bob

Possible birth for Miriam...

Name: Miriam Evans
Year of Registration: 1838
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: St Asaph
County: Denbighshire, Flintshire
Volume: 27
Page: 191 (click to see others on page)

Linda

Still doesn't help with the Williams family though lol.

Possible marriage to Miriam Evans...

Name: John Davies
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: St Asaph
County: Denbighshire, Flintshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 496 (click to see others on page)

Linda

Bingo at last found something...

1871 Wales census...

Name: John Davies
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Miriam
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanddulas, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Nant Dinhengroen
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: St Asaph
Sub registration district: Abergele
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
John Davies 40
Miriam Davies 32
Robert Davies 11
Elizabeth Davies 9
Ellis Davies 7

Linda

Thanks Margaret - have now found a newspaper obituary of his death!
bob

Robert do an advanced search( yellow box on the left). Put Australian bmds

Margaret,
I know Walter died in Adelaide, Australia in April 1985.
bob

Linda - I think its brill that you haven't given up on mine yet!!!
That census is close to what I do have, but not the same. The entire details I have for Mary jane is that her parents were called John and Miriam, and MJ had siblings called Robert, Martha, Emma, Ellis and Elizabeth. And thats the full extent of my limited scope on that side so far!
Bob

Perhaps someone can look for a death for Walter.

Any idea where he would have died?

Oh the joys of looking for William Williams in Wales thank goodness mine had the sense and move to Staffordshire lol.

A possible for Mary Jane Davies 1881 Wales census..

Name: Mary Davies
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Abergele, Denbighshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Abergele
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Street address: 3 Twllwynog
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: St Asaph
Sub registration district: Abergele
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Anne Davies 3
Eliza Davies 35
Elizabeth Davies 13
Emma Davies 11
John Davies 34
John Davies 7
Mary Davies 5

Linda

Thanks Margaret. Unfortunately he died in Australia some years ago having emigrated in the 60's and I don;t have access to his death stuff. I will chase down the birth certificate and work from there.
bob

If you get your grandfather Walter Williams birth cert it will have place of birth and his fathers name and occupation.

You can then look for his father in 1901.

If your grandfather Walter died after 1969 it will have his date of birth on the reg ref.

Hi Linda,
followed your lead on the google, he may have been registered under pentasaph which is the local parish St Clare is in?
the latest link you posted I am fairly sure is not mine, as my dad is adament that his name was only William Williams (apparently he was so fed up with how many there were at the time he went by the name of 'Tudor' just too be different!).
I do really appreciate your help and effort - hadn't realised that some people 'out there' would be so productive on other people behalf, can't praise yu enough.
gratefully
bob

Possible 1901 Wales census...although it doesn't exactly tie in with St Clares ??

Name: William John Williams
Age in 1901: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Edward
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Holywell, Flintshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Holywell
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Holywell
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Holywell
Sub registration district: Holywell
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 149
Household Members
James Littler Williams 23
Alfred Edward Williams 21
John Edward Williams 53
Joseph Henry Williams 16
Mary Williams 54
Mary Catherine Williams 15
William John Williams 25

William's occupation is plasterer...if this helps

Linda

Hi Robert...

That is the marriage that I added to this thread.

St Claire's being an establishment makes sense...there was a St Clare's Convent in Holywell and in it's day was an orphanage.

Linda

Linda,
you may have been more help than you know!
There is a marriage record in 1901 between a Mary Jane Davies and William Williams registered at Holywell!
bob