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Hi again Cass.
Yes I think its time to give up on this one as you say,there are too many maybes and possibilities.She was we think Mary Anne Whitehead.Born in Newcastle Under Lyme in Staffordshire in 1842.She died in 1877 aged 35.He got the info from a certificate they had for a birth of the child, which has their both names as George and Mary Anne Radermacher.Although he has the name and birth date of the Mother,he cant find the marriage details.Although unlikely,I suppose there is a possibility that either they married in Germany or they never married at all.....Colin

That's it,I'm afraid.Without the marriage cert?You're not/never likely to find who his parent's were.

The name George could have been an Anglicised version of his German name and you also have to confirm with the Guy who gave you the Whitehead name as to where the info came from.Doe's he have a cert?or,what is his source?.

Look's like you've only the "Whitehead" name to go on.Best of luck.

Hi again Cass.Th eguy who gave us the details can not get any marriage info but says her maiden name was Whitehead.Maybe they were not married.....

Hi Cass.Christine is in soon so I wil ask her what info she has.....

Hi Colin.So..no marriage cert.Were they married.Regard's,Cass

Hi Cass.She had no info whatsoever on her family until I messaged someone on Genes Re-United.He had a lot of what she has now.He also had a lot of Birth,Death and Marriage certificates,but not that far back.Nothing that gives any info on the person that I am looking for.No worries,I am sure that something will come up.Thanks for all you have done anyway.Appreciated.......

Colin.There are Thousand's of Radmacher's,Rademacher's,Radermacher's from all over Germany on census info to passenger list's prussian war's etc.
Your best bet is to contact other's of same name and maybe they can assist you with any passenger list's that may be avialable for that time.

As you've said..you know when he died,you know who he married...was his father's name on cert?.
As you've said.a member of family has most of the cert's.What relevant cert's do you have in accordance to your primary question?Cass

I think were I was going wrong was that we did find George Radermacher in the 1851 census that gives a birth date of 1838.He was resident in Middlesex.We did not have any more info on this so dismissed it.May well be him,I do not know......

Sorry Cass,the info that I had given out about 1850 was wrong.Just looked back at the records and it was 1861.The info that you had about George Redencher of Vincent Street was the last record that we found, but was unsure if him or not.Sometimes its a matter of looking at all the different parts of the info and putting 2 and 2 together.
We were told by a member of the family who has most of the records and certificates to back them up,that he poss came over in or around 1860.This may well be due to the fact that he can not find him on the 1851 census.
Anyway thanks again for all your help,it is fantastic that people are prepared to put themselves out for other peoples needs,and it is greatly appreciated.I hope that one day,we can do the same for you...Colin

Hi Cass.I appreciate all help that I can get but if you look back to the posts 16.56,17,40 19,04 and 20.02 especially the 1740 one,you will see that the only info that I am looking for is before he came over.The 17.40 post informed all, that I knew where he was from 1850 onwards so if anyone needed to know they only had to ask.I understand that you require certain bits of info in order to track back and thats understandable.I will have a look if I can find the details for 1851.Think that his name was spelt quite different,that may help a little.Thanks....Colin

Colin.Seem's strange that Christine did'nt have him on the 1901 census.
If you'd have explained in your "Thread"that you had the census info of 1851,then maybe you could have shared that with the people who've been trying to help you and maybe then we would have had some different Clue's to assist you.

Had a feelin that we would get no further.Has anyone any ideas about gettin this info.How would I go about it.Has anyone any records of any of these coming over on the boats or any records in Germany.....

Hi Cass.Yes we have all this info to a point.As far as we know he was over here from at least 1850 as he is on the 51 census.It is only really the info before this that we require.Thanks...Colin

George's Wife,Mary Ann died 1877 and registered death at West Derby,Lancashire

Volume 8b
Page 392
Qtr 4.

I should think he would have only been in the country a few year's prior to 1861.if that!

I believe I've now found him in the 1861 census.

George Radencher c 1833,Hamburg,lodging at 29,St Vincent Street,Liverpool.

He was single and his occupation was Office Clerk.

I'd say that this is your man.

You have to allow for transcription error's and also,this name is on Passenger list's from Hamburg to the U.S.A.

I'm trying to find the marriage as he probably would have c 1862.

That is spot on then Cass.He was an immigration Agent.So this is him.Is there any way that we can find him before coming over this way.....What info do you have for his wife...

1901 census.He was a Caretaker at 169,Duke Street,[Mount Pleasant] Liverpool and also occupation as, "Passenger Agent"

His wife died in 1877.

Colin,Caretaker,Cass

Hi alviegal.Post at the top says relation caretaher,is this something mis-spelt or what does it mean...