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I wondered if anyone could find the birth of Fen Read born about 1793 South walsham Norfolk . a kind lady found what may be his death in 1879 age 86 ,she found this after i asked if anyone could find his marriage . Thank you

Thank you Paula ,He's hard to track down ,in the 1841 census he's Vane Read ,in 1851 he's Fane and 61/71 he's Jane ! I carn't find a birth for any of them Amanda

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Deaths Sep 1879

Read Fen - aged 86 - Blofield (Norfolk) 4b 114

For ref:?

Name: Keziah Read
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 80
District: Blofield
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 131


Name: Phoebe Read
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 78
District: Norwich Smallburgh
County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 109

This looks nice but it's only a submitted record, and the birth's a bit out:

Robert READ Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
27 APR 1802 South Walsham St Lawrence, , Norfolk, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: Richard READ Family
Mother: Susanna FENN

Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

What fantastic names

if it helps - the above Robert Read's spouse -

Spouse: Mary SUTTON
Marriage: 30 APR 1822 Upton, Norfolk, England

Is this Mary in 1881 then?

Name: Mary Read
Age: 85
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Blofield, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Acle
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Blofield
Sub registration district: South Walsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Gertrude Mingay 3
Ann Read 57
Fred Read 17
Mary Read 85
Mary Ann Read 14
Robert Read 58
Robert Read 32

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Thank you Linda, Ann and Blossom ,It looks as if Mary was living with son Robert in 1881 ,if i can find his birth then i'll send for birth cert then maybe i'll find his father's true name many thanks . Amanda

Amanda you cant send for a birth cert because Robert was born before 1837 when registration began.

You have to look at parish records which can be ordered at your LDS centre for a small charge

Thank you Margaret I'll have to find the birth of one of the children born after 1837 ,on the 1841 census there was Edward age 4 and mary age 2 ,so will have to look for their births .

If Edward was aged 4 in 1941 census he would have been born before civil registration started as the census was taken in Jun 1841 Ed ward must have been born befor Sept 1837 which is when registration started so you need Mary's birth.

Are you sure the Robert married to Mary Sutton is the 'Fen' you are looking for as you originally said Fen was born in 1793. I don't think the records for South Walsham churches complete on the igi so perhaps there is someone who would look up the actual register for you for c 1793

Just looked on your other thread about Fenn and wife Mary you said their eldest child was Sarah Ann - if Robert and mary Sutton are the ones you want the Sarah Ann born to them died before she was born!

Sarah Ann READ
Christening: 13 JAN 1829 South Walsham St Mary'S, , Norfolk, England

Death:
Burial: 04 MAY 1828 South Walsham St Mary'S, , Norfolk, England

Parents:
Father: Robert READ Mother: Mary SUTTON

Ann, I'am not sure about Robert , Fen ,Fane or Vane is the name i was looking for . Amanda

Let me explain i have 1891 census Alfred Charles Read with wife louisa ,their son Jeremah Read born 1857 Upton norfolk ,the 1861 census shows Jeremiah with his mother Elizabeth and grandparents Mary Read and Jane Read down as the head and male, i hope this all makes sense .

1891 for ref Alfred is son not husband! is this right
Name: Jeremiah Read
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Upton, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Rackheath
County/Island: Norfolk
Name: Louisa Read
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Jeremiah
Gender: Female
Where born: Upton, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Rackheath
County/Island: Norfolk
Name: Alfred Read
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Jeremiah
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradwell, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Rackheath
County/Island: Norfolk
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Read 7
Alfred Read 9
Basil S Read 3
Emma Read 5
Jeremiah Read 35
John Read 10
Louisa Read 36

1881
Name: Jeremiah Read
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Upton, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Mautby
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address: Cottages Near Hall
Occupation: Ag Lab

Household Members: Name Age
Jeremiah Read 24
John Read
Louisa Read 26

so 1861
Name: Jeremiah Read
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Upton, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Upton
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk


Name: Elizebeth Read
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jane
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Upton, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Upton
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich


Name: Mary Read
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Blofield, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Upton
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich


Household Members: Name Age
Ann E Read 7
Elizebeth Read 27
Jane Read 68
Jeremiah Read 4
Mary Read 65
Robert James Read 1

I think I understand now - I have not got access to the censuses so can only work on the info you have given, sorry.

If I have got this right
Jeremiah
Births Sep 1856
Read Jeremiah High Blofield 4b 161
this certificate would give Jeremiah's father - ?? Read

Which presumably then helped you identify the family in 1841 - ?? Read being probably (very inconsiderately!!) born before civil registration began

1851
Name: Mary Read
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Fane
Gender: Female
Where born: Burlingham, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Upton
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
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Household Members: Name Age
Edward Read 14
Fane Read 58
Mary Read 58
Mary Read 12
Richard Read 16