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Lindsay, I found this marriage in the right area

JAMES SPETCH :
Spouse: MARY SMITH
Marriage: 01 JUL 1804 Batley, Yorkshire, England

Lfw, I have never used the Gazette - what a great tip, I will certainly check it out.

Must be off now,

Thanks for all your help tonight,

Selena

Hi Selena

Have you looked at the Gazette

http://www.londongazette.co.uk/

It has all sorts of documents (sadly lots of bankruptcy) but also deed of transfer and other interesting bits.

this could be William (1808):

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 marriage
Day: 25
Month: Aug
Year: 1834
Groom Forenames: William
Groom Surname: SPETCH
Groom's Parish: OTP
Groom's Abode: Halifax
Groom's Occupation: Cabinet Maker
Bride Forenames: Emma
Bride Surname: STEAD
Bride's Parish: OTP
Bride's Abode: Halifax
Bride's Condition:
By Licence: Banns
Place: Halifax
Description: St John
County: Yorkshire West Riding
Country: England
Register No: 521
Record source: Halifax St John Marriages
Data provider: Calderdale Family History Society

LFW, thanks for that. James Spetch's grandson David Guest was a cloth merchant.

I have heard that Polly was a nick name for Mary Ann and I found this by googling.

"It was common in the Middle Ages to exchange Ps for Ms in nicknames. Thus Mary or "Molly" was transformed into "Polly." The same exchange can be seen with Peggy or Peg, a common nickname for Margaret (via "Meg.")

Polly" is a nickname, and often a name in its own right, for girls, which was derived from the name Molly. In 18th and 19th Century New England it was a common nickname for Mary.

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial
First name(s): James
Last name: SPETCH
Date of burial: 5 Jun 1854
Age at death: 62
Calculated year of birth: 1792
Place of burial: Leeds
Dedication: Woodhouse St Mark
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Notes:

Leeds Woodhouse St Mark:
Denomination: Anglican
Coverage: 1831 - 1971
Number of entries: 17,342
Record source: National Burial Index
Data provider: Yorkshire Archaeological Society Family History Section

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 baptism
Day: 28
Month: Sep
Year: 1828
Forenames: Emma
Surname: Spetch
Fathers Forenames: James
Fathers occupation: Clothier
Mothers Forenames: Mary
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year: -
Chapelry:
Place: Batley
Description: All Saints
County: Yorkshire West Riding
Country: England
Address: Churwell
Record source: Huddersfield Baptisms
Data provider: Huddersfield & District Family History Society

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Found this on familysearch, but submitted by a member of LDS Church, may not be wholly accuarate. Right area though

JAMES GUEST
MARY WOODHEAD
Marriage: 25 APR 1835 Featherstone, Yorkshire, England

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 baptism
Day: 21
Month: Aug
Year: 1825
Forenames: Frederick
Surname: Spetch
Fathers Forenames: James
Fathers occupation: Clothier
Mothers Forenames: Mary
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year: -
Chapelry:
Place: Batley
Description: All Saints
County: Yorkshire West Riding
Country: England
Address: Churwell
Record source: Huddersfield Baptisms
Data provider: Huddersfield & District Family History Society

Umm, different mother or just a pet name!?!

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 baptism
Day: 11
Month: Apr
Year: 1819
Forenames: Martha
Surname: Spetch
Fathers Forenames: James
Fathers occupation: Clothier
Mothers Forenames: Polly
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year: -
Chapelry:
Place: Batley
Description: All Saints
County: Yorkshire West Riding
Country: England
Address: Churwell
Record source: Huddersfield Baptisms
Data provider: Huddersfield & District Family History Society

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 baptism
Day: 10
Month: Sep
Year: 1815
Forenames: Mary
Surname: Spetch
Fathers Forenames: James
Fathers occupation: Clothier
Mothers Forenames: Mary
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year: -
Chapelry:
Place: Batley
Description: All Saints
County: Yorkshire West Riding
Country: England
Address: Churwell
Record source: Huddersfield Baptisms
Data provider: Huddersfield & District Family History Society

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 baptism
Day: 6
Month: Nov
Year: 1808
Forenames: William
Surname: Spetch
Fathers Forenames: James
Fathers occupation: Clothier
Mothers Forenames: Mary
Birth Day: 24
Birth Month: Aug
Birth Year: 1808
Chapelry:
Place: Batley
Description: All Saints
County: Yorkshire West Riding
Country: England
Address: Churwell
Record source: Huddersfield Baptisms
Data provider: Huddersfield & District Family History Society

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 baptism
Day: 26
Month: Jan
Year: 1806
Forenames: Joseph
Surname: Spetch
Fathers Forenames: James
Fathers occupation: Clothier
Mothers Forenames: Maria
Birth Day: 9
Birth Month: Nov
Birth Year: 1805
Chapelry:
Place: Batley
Description: All Saints
County: Yorkshire West Riding
Country: England
Address: Morley
Record source: Huddersfield Baptisms
Data provider: Huddersfield & District Family History Society

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 baptism
Day: 10
Month: Jun
Year: 1821
Forenames: Caroline
Surname: Spetch
Fathers Forenames: James
Fathers occupation: Clothier
Mothers Forenames: Mary
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year: -
Chapelry:
Place: Batley
Description: All Saints
County: Yorkshire West Riding
Country: England
Address: Churwell
Record source: Huddersfield Baptisms
Data provider: Huddersfield & District Family History Society

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 baptism
Day: 30
Month: Sep
Year: 1804
Forenames: Elizabeth
Surname: Spetch
Fathers Forenames: James
Fathers occupation: Clothier
Mothers Forenames: Mary
Birth Day: 2
Birth Month: Aug
Birth Year: 1804
Chapelry:
Place: Batley
Description: All Saints
County: Yorkshire West Riding
Country: England
Address: Morley
Record source: Huddersfield Baptisms
Data provider: Huddersfield & District Family History Society

Hello Lost, our posts crossed - the clothier bit ties in very much with the Guest family later on.

That's very helpful thank you.

Selena

Thanks so much Lindsay, hope you have a pleasant evening,

Selena

Hi Selena

Don't know if this is the same as you have but it has fathers occupation

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 baptism
Day: 14
Month: Jul
Year: 1811
Forenames: David
Surname: Spetch
Fathers Forenames: James
Fathers occupation: Clothier
Mothers Forenames: Mary
Birth Day: 24
Birth Month: Feb
Birth Year: 1811
Chapelry:
Place: Batley
Description: All Saints
County: Yorkshire West Riding
Country: England
Address: Churwell
Record source: Huddersfield Baptisms
Data provider: Huddersfield & District Family History Society

Well I think thats it Selena

Happy Hunting

Lindsay

1851
Name: David Spetch
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Churwell, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Batley
Ecclesiastical parish: Morley cum Churwell
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Hunslet
Sub registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Household schedule number: 60
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Spetch 23
David Spetch 40
Elizabeth Spetch 36
Elizabeth Spetch 14
Frederick Spetch 25
Henry Spetch 7 Mo
Jim Spetch 7
Martha A Spetch 5
Sarah A Spetch 3

Thanks again Lindsay, I've seen some other members on site with David Guest 1816 in their tree and I suppose they took his birth year from this census.

Selena

?David on 1841 (ages again rounded)
SPETCH, David M 25 1816 Yorkshire
SPETCH, Eliza Ann F 25 1816 Yorkshire
SPETCH, Elizabeth F 4 1837 Yorkshire
SPETCH, William M 2 1839 Yorkshire
SPETCH, Amilia F 0 (2 months) 1841 Yorkshire
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1290 Book/Folio:
1/27 Page:
13

Registration District:
Leeds Sub District:
Holbeck EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish:
Batley Municipal Borough:
Address:
Churwell, Batley, Churwell County:
Yorkshire