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A question on some census results

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Marmite

Marmite Report 7 Nov 2008 15:27

I have had a look myself on the site below.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

I was looking for Thomas Tripp b 1860 in Cornwall. His mother was Elizabeth b 1829 and father James 1837. I looked at the 1881 census. On it, it had Elizabeth living with them as W (Widow I think?) can we know when James died? also a funny thing is Thomas 1860 was aged 21 on the census and recorded as married to a Georgina Tripp b 1861 St. Kevern Cornwall.

HOWEVER I know that Thomas b 1860 married Agnes Marsh and then after she died a Lucy Fairbrass!!! I he can't have married 3 times!!! ??? and why don't I know about it? Any geno detectives who can rescue me from a mushy brain??

Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 15:37

few questions first
Where about's in cornwall was he born?
When did Thomas marry Agnes?
any children for Thomas and Agnes?
When did Thomas marry Lucy?

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Nov 2008 15:38

Is this the right family in 1871? :-

Name: Thomas J Tripp
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James H
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Camborne, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 112 Langford Road

Occupation: Father is a Carpenter employing 4 men and 2 boys.

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View Image
Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
Caroline A Colgate 15 - servant
Elizabeth Tripp 44
James H Tripp 33
Thomas J Tripp 10
Samuel White 18 - apprentice.

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 242; Folio: 59; Page: 7; GSU roll: 824908

Kath. x

Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 15:39

There are two Thomas Tripp's on the 1861 census with parents James and Elizabeth.Maybe you have them muddled?Also Elizabeth's surname on the 1881 census is White and it says visitor.

Artbeat

Artbeat Report 7 Nov 2008 15:41

is this them in 1881?

: Thomas Tripp
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Georgina
Gender: Male
Where born: St Keverne, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Gwinear
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address: Kathebedron Cottage
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Farm Labourer

Registration district: Redruth
Sub registration district: Phillack
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Georgina Tripp 20
James Tripp
Thomas Tripp 21
Annie White 11
Elizabeth White 48



Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 15:42

This is the correct family

1881 England Census
about Thomas J. Tripp
Name: Thomas J. Tripp
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James H.
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Camborne, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 31 Grafton Tce
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Carpenter

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Tripp 50
James H. Tripp 43
Thomas J. Tripp 24




KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Nov 2008 15:43

On the 1861 census there are 2 Thomas Tripps both with parents called James and Elizabeth and both born in Cornwall. One born Camborne the other born Phillack. Which one is yours?

Kath. x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Nov 2008 15:43

Could this be your Thomas after Agnes died?
1891 census
2 Lyndhurst Rd., Tottenham, Wood Green, Middlesex
Thomas J. Tripp, head, widower, 30, builder's clerk, born Cornwall, Cambourn
Valentine, son, 5, born Kent, Folkestone
James H., son, 3, born Wood Green
Ethel A., dau, 2, born wood Green

Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 15:44

1871 England Census
about Thomas J Tripp
Name: Thomas J Tripp
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James H
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Camborne, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline A Colgate 15 - servant
Elizabeth Tripp 44
James H Tripp 33
Thomas J Tripp 10
Samuel White 18 - apprentice




Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 15:46

Marriages Jun 1882
MARSH Agnes Marie Elham 2a 1561
TRIPP Thomas James Elham 2a 1561

Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 15:47

Marriages Sep 1891
Fairbrass Lucy Pancras 1b 257
Tripp Thomas James Pancras 1b 257

Marmite

Marmite Report 7 Nov 2008 15:47

Today at 15:44 as posted at this time

Yes thats them. I want to know if its recorded as him married to Agnes Marsh? Ill add some more info.

Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 15:48

So you were looking at the wrong Thomas. It would have been easier if you'd put his middle name on your request.

Marmite

Marmite Report 7 Nov 2008 15:49

My brain hurts!! Ill put up more dates that I have. Can you tell me who is who and did he have three wives???

Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 15:50

They won't be on a census together because they married 1882 and she had died before 1891.

Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 15:51

No he didn't have three wives :-)
The 1881,1871 census I put on and the 1891 margaret put on are of the correct family.

Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 15:52

1861 England Census
about Thomas Tripp
Name: Thomas Tripp
Age: 5 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James H
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Camborne, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Camborne
Ecclesiastical parish: Tuckingmill
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Redruth
Sub registration district: Camborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 10f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 218
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Tripp 32
James H Tripp 24
John Tripp 22 - boarder really his brother
Thomas Tripp 5 Mo


Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 15:54

Thomas' father
1841 England Census

Name: James Tripp
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Camborne
Hundred: Penwith
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Redruth
Sub registration district: Camborne
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Tripp 25
Alice Tripp 25
James Tripp 4
John Tripp 2
Henry Nankey 20
Mary James 20
Mary Tripp 6 Mo


Marmite

Marmite Report 7 Nov 2008 15:54

Thomas James 1860 Camborne
Son of James Henry TRIPP married to Agnes Mary
TRIPP(MARSH) b. 1864 Camberwell d. June 1890 Edmonton. marriage date m. 21 June 1882 Folkestone.

She died aged about 26 then our man is suppossed to have married Lucy Fairbrass.

Was he married to thet Georgina?? and did he have kids with Lucy Fairbrass??

Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 15:55

1851 England Census
about James Trip
Name: James Trip
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Camborne, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Redruth
Town: Redruth
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Redruth
Sub registration district: Redruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
James Soloman 45
Alice Trip 38
Francis Trip 4
James Trip 38
James Trip 14
Jane Trip 8
Mary Trip 10
Richard Trip 2
Samuel Trip 12
William Trip 6