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1871 and 1891 census look ups please

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Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 11 Nov 2008 21:27

I'm trying to sort out a father and son both named John Burridge.

John senior was born in Whitehaven in 1815 but appears to have shaved about 10 years off his age in 1881. His first wife was Ann Sharp and they married in 1842 in Wigton, Cumberland. Ann died in 1870 in Whitehaven. I think John moved to Liverpool some time after this and took up with Elizabeth? I don't believe they married. John's father William also moved to Liverpool to be with his son.

John junior was born in Hensingham, Cumberland in 1847. He married Hannah/Ann Cowx in 1873. They had 2 sons, James 1874 and Robert 1876. Hannah died in 1879 giving birth to a daughter, Ann Sharp Burridge.

I'd be extremely greatful for any census information.




Deb:)

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 11 Nov 2008 21:40

Householder 1
Name Ann Burridge
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 45
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Cumberland Dearham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name John Burridge
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 51
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Railway Platelayer
Employment Status
Where Born Cumberland Hensingham
Language
Infirmity
What can I do next?
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POSSIBLE JOHN JUNIOR

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 11 Nov 2008 21:47

Hi Snowflake,

Which census is that from?


Deb:)

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 11 Nov 2008 21:49

Search records - 1901 census (England and Wales)
These are the details for all individuals who lived with James Burridge on the night of the census.
1901 census record for household of James Burridge «Back to results
Address Private House
Civil Parish Great Clifton
Rural District Cockermouth
Town or Village or Hamlet Great Clifton
Ecclesiastical Parish Clifton
Parliamentary Borough or Division Cockermouth
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Cumberland

Householder 1
Name Hannah Burridge
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 2
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Juvenile
Employment Status
Where Born Cumbd Great Clifton
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name James Burridge
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 26
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Coal Miner
Employment Status
Where Born Cumbd Hensingham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Sarah A Burridge
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 21
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Cumbd Great Clifton
Language
Infirmity
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POSSIBLE SON OF JOHN JUNIOR

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 11 Nov 2008 21:50

FIRST POST FROM 1901

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 11 Nov 2008 22:17

1891 England Census
about John Burridge
Name: John Burridge
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Cleator, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Distington
Ecclesiastical parish: Distington
Town: Distington
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: Harrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Beeby 7/12
Rachel Beeby 28
Thomas Beeby 25
John Burridge 43..Boarder..Widower..Platelayer Railway
John Dinon 21

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 11 Nov 2008 22:20

Hi Yummy and Snowflake,

Unfortunately, the 1891 isn't my John junior. This is the same John in 1881 followed by my John in 1881.


Name: Jonathan Burrage
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Hensingham, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Distington
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address: Commonside
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:
Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: Harrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Burrage 35
John Burrage 12
Jonathan Burrage 35
Margaret Ann Burrage 6
Mary Jane Burrage 4



Name: John Burridge
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Padstow, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Hensingham
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address: Main St
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Education:

Employment status:
Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: St Bees
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Burridge 6
John Burridge 33
Robert Burridge 4
Joseph Crowe 34



I believe this is my John senior in 1881. I'm trying to determine where the John H Burridge comes into the picture. I'm not sure if he's a stepson.



Name: John Burridge
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 5 Vronhill St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:
Occupation: Tinplate Worker

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 57
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Burridge 56
John Burridge 52
John H. Burridge 20





Deb:)

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 11 Nov 2008 22:24

Thanks Christina,

The 91 you posted seems to fit for John junior.


Thanks Snowflake,

The first 1901 would be my John re-married. His occupation is the same as the 91 Christina posted.




Deb:)

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 11 Nov 2008 22:30

Is it now possible to find John senior in 1871 and 1891?



Deb:)

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 11 Nov 2008 22:37

1871 England Census
about John Burridge
Name: John Burridge
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Name: William
Gender: Male
Where born: Hailes, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 261
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Burridge 45
John Burridge 45..Brazier
John H Burridge 10..Son..Liverpool
William Burridge 88..Father..Widower..Shipwright

All others born in Whitehaven

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 11 Nov 2008 22:43

Thanks Christina,

That's the right John senior as his father William is with them.

Can you do me a favour? I need to find out where John H Burridge was in 61. Or if he doesn't appear in 61 then Elizabeth?



Deb:)




Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 11 Nov 2008 22:52

Can't see a John H Burridge.

There are loads of John H's listed with mother Elizabeth though.

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 11 Nov 2008 22:54

Thanks Christina,

I do suspect that he was a stepson so that might explain things. Can you see if you can find John with his first wife Ann Sharp? They should be in Whitehaven, possibly St Bees or Egremont.




Deb:)

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 11 Nov 2008 23:08

Think this is the same one as the 1871 post above.

He has a son John H Buridge...but his wife is Catherine.

1861 England Census
about John Buridge
Name: John Buridge
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Son-in-law
Spouse's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitehaven, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 152
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Buridge 28..Disington
John Buridge 33..Copper Smith
John H Buridge 4 Mo..Liverpool
Mary Hall 53..Whitehaven
Ralph Hall 57..Head..Stone Mason..Alston, Cumberland
Ralph Hall 25..Disington, Cumberland

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 11 Nov 2008 23:17

This one can't be yours though if he married in 1852!

Marriages Sep 1852 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>BURRIDGE John W Derby 8b 636
>>>Hall Catherine West Derby 8b 636
Key Thomas Barrow W Derby 8b 636
Munro Isabella West Derby 8b 636

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 11 Nov 2008 23:23

Is this the right John in 1851?

1851 England Census
about John Burridge
Name: John Burridge
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hensingham, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Cleator
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: St Bees
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Burridge 30
John Burridge 30
John Burridge 3
Jonathan Burridge 6
Robert Burridge 1
William Burridge 8

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 11 Nov 2008 23:30

I see what you mean. What I can't understand is why this John ended up with William living with him in 1871. William is definately mine!

William Burridge was married to Abigail and they had a daughter Mary who married my 4xg/grandfather Robert Sharp. Robert's sister Ann Sharp married Mary's brother John in 1842. (Yes, I know. 2 siblings marrying 2 siblings. Does wonders for the tree).

Ann Burridge nee Sharp didn't die until 1870 so she should appear in 1861 with husband John. They must be two different John's.


Aha! Thanks for that. You were one step ahead of me! The 51 census is my family. There's Johnathan junior with them. But he's also got a younger brother called John!


It seems the family had a habit of doubling up on forenames. I wonder if the 2 John's (John and Ann and John and Catherine/Elizabeth were brothers?




Deb:)

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 11 Nov 2008 23:35

Updated last post.

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 11 Nov 2008 23:43

Wonder if this is them in 1861?.....although the image does look like Burrow, I can't see anything else that may be them in the area.

1861 England Census
about John Burrow
Name: John Burrow
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hensingham, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Hensingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: St Bees
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Burrow 40
Elizabeth Burrow 9
James Hy Burrow 8 Mo
John Burrow 40
John Burrow 13
Robert Burrow 11
Sarah Burrow 6

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 11 Nov 2008 23:48

The above must be them in 1861...here are Elizabeth & Sarah in 1871, they are both boarders of James Henry.

1871 England Census
about Sarah Burrage
Name: Sarah Burrage
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Parent's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Hensingham, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Hensingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: St Bees
ED, institution, or vessel: 4b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Burrage 20
Sarah Burrage 17
Sarah Burrage 3 months
Dorathy Henry 10
James Henry 38