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hi sue
i just wanted to thankyou for all your help and hardwork, its really appreciated!!!
i will have a look at all the info you have kindly provided and let you know the outcome.
i look forward to hearing from you in the new year, thanks again for the information,
best wishes for xmas and the new year.
rebecca

hi rebecca,
the story so far ( i hope)

LucySwanwick was born 4th child of ten to Henry and Lucy Swanwick @ Ellenhall Staffs.
baptisms all at Ellenhall ST MARY;
oct 17th 1858==Samuel
mar 24th 1861== Dinah
july 26th 1863==MaryAnn
dec 15th 1865== LUCY
aug 18th 1867== Fanny
mar 13th 1870==John Henry
mar 1st 1872== James
july 5th 1874== Ezekiel
jan 14th 1877== Alice
aug 3rd 1879== Annie Jane
father a labourer

Lucy then married John Rowley (born 1857)
married 1887 Eccleshall they had 2 kids both baptised at chapel chorlton st lawrence
nov 6th 1887 ==Alice Martha
june 23rd 1889== James William
Chapel Chorlton is in the parish of Eccleshall but after 1890's the records are still at the church ( if it is still open).
James dies in 1894 and by 1901 lucy is living back with her dad and james ,alice is a servant at ranton

consequently i can not find a baptism for FLORENCE MABEL ROWLEY OR BENBOW in any of the parish registers for that area
this doesnt mean she wasnt baptised because the vicars sometimes forgot to enter them!.

However bapt at Croxton St Pauls.
oct 19th 1876== Sarah Ann Benbow
jan 31st 1878 == JOHN THOMAS BENBOW
Both to james and Julia/ Julietta?
James is a Carpenter
1881 cencus Croxton
James Benbow H 38 joiner from Cheswardine Salop
Julia Benbow w 36------- from blythe marsh Forsbrook
John Thomas s 6 scholar from croxton
Elizabeth Johnson Benbow age 2 from croxton
( i know the ages dont match up but remember kids sometimes weren't baptised in the same year as birth; plus i'm not sure if elizabeth is a benbow?)
1891 croxton
James Benbow widow 50 carpenter Cheswardine
John T Benbow s 13 ag lab from croxton

mother Julia born Julia Henrietta Fordan (Foden)
born 1843 blythe marsh dillhorne forsbrook
married 1874 and died 1890
Anyhow
John Benbow marries Lucy Rowley in 1908
and i have discovered that another child existed
at Holy Trinity Eccleshall
bapt nov 16th 1908
Mary Victoria Benbow ( sister to Florence )
to John Thomas and Lucy
living Eccleshall him a labourer
i went upto 1927 when the twins were born and could find no more. Holy Trinity's records are held at church after then, as are most churches.
john benbow died i believe around 1922 stafford district.
Rebbecca i'll leave you to decide if this information is correct, i can only tell you what i have found.
i can't get to records until after xmas now, but if you would like me to check anything in the new yearjust look me up on genes trees as sue mills.
Ihope you and your Uncle and families have a lovely xmas and a succesful new year.
All the best Sue

hi sue

that would fit in with the marriage you found.
in 1908 of john thomas benbow and lucy rowley.

rebbecca just found
birth reg of
florence mabel b rowley
born march qtr 1906
stone district staffordshire

just a thought that maybe she was born a rowley then took the name of benbow after?
sue

hi sue
in relation to the marriage between john thomas benbow and lucy rowley nee swannwick ive found a record for john

1901 census record for household of John Benbow
Address Shortwood
Civil Parish Standon
Rural District Stone
Town or Village or Hamlet Village Of Standon Hamlets Walford Bowers Weston & Shortwood
Ecclesiastical Parish Standon All Saints
Parliamentary Borough or Division N Western Div Of Staffordshire
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Staffordshire

Householder 1
Name John Benbow
Relation to Head of Family Servant
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 23
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Waggoner On Farm
Employment Status
Where Born Croxton Staffs

Householder 2
Name Sarah Downing
Relation to Head of Family Servant
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 13
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Kitchenmaid Domestic
Employment Status
Where Born Cotes Heath Staffs

Householder 3
Name William Key
Relation to Head of Family Servant
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 22
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Cowman On Farm
Employment Status
Where Born Chebsey Staffs
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Patrick Moran
Relation to Head of Family Servant
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 27
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Labourer On Farm
Employment Status
Where Born Rosscommon Ireland

Householder 5
Name Alice Thompstone
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 38
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Dairymaid On Farm
Employment Status
Where Born Sutton Cheshire
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name Mary Ellen Thompstone
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 34
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Sutton Cheshire

Householder 7
Name Noah Thompstone
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 25
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Farmers Son
Employment Status
Where Born Sutton Cheshire

Householder 8
Name Noah Thompstone
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Widower
Age Last Birthday 70
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Farmer
Employment Status
Where Born Gawsworth Cheshire

although with him being a servant it doesnt give us any other info

hi sue,
firstly let me thankyou for taking the time to look this information up for me, its very much appreciated!!

the marriage between john thomas benbow and lucy rowley nee swannwick, is very interesting, as i would think SWANNWICK is not a very popular. surname and it seems to link both benbows.

im wondering if these could actually be florence mabels parents, and its florence mabels mums sister or brother who is witness to her marriage to james thomas bradbury??

as for florence and john moving to the area that could also be possible as the only evidence i have is florences marriage to james at croxton.

the baptism of the twins is also interesting as one or both may still be alive, and have more information.

in response to your question about the bradburys,
they all seemed to have been from forsbrook staffs, and later james and florence moving to blackbrook, maer, staffs.

let me thankyou once again, you have certainly given me some things to think about.
ill be intouch soon and let you know if i come up with anything else.

thanks again
best wishes
rebecca

forgot to ask where did the bradburys come from?

hi rebbecca
sorry to get back so late ln the day.
not much news sorry
can not find the baptism of florence mabel
looked in croxton-eccleshall-stone- standon,there is 1 other church slindon but the records for this church are kept at the church.
also cannot find a baptism for a john benbow at these churches either, so do you know if they perhaps moved into the area ?
however there are alot of benbows at the time in eccleshall area! 1 being a william benbow a bricklayer,don't know if this is any help by the way

i did find a marriage at eccleshall holy trinity church.1908
John Thomas benbow age 31 a batchelor
living eccleshall a labourer father james a carpenter,
Lucy rowley age 39 a WIDOW
living eccleshall father henry Swannwick dcd
witnessed by frank johnson/ lucy hocknall

i tell you this because it might be significant to whats next
1st swannwick must have been lucy's maiden name before her 1st marriage.
2nd and perhaps more telling
when i looked at florence( mabel)& james thomas's marriage details you gave me
the witnesses are a C SWANNWICK&GLADY'S JOHNSON
i hope this hasn't caused to much confusion and if their is anything there that might be any good let me know ANYWAY
i hope this is something for your uncle
baptism of twins
april 20th 1927
FLORENCE MARGARET &
JAMES THOMAS
BORN TO
JAMES THOMAS &
FLORENCE MABEL BRADBURY
AT HOLY TRINITY CHURCH ECCLESHALL.
FATHER IS DOWN AS FARM LABOURER.
rebbecca i'm sorry this is little help but i will keep my eyes open for you and let me know if there are any further leads
hope to hear from you all the best sue

no there is no mention of her date of birth on the death cert or even on her gravestone, its a mystery

Just thought on a Death cerificate for 1938 is the BIRTH DATE on there.

This would be helpful for Sue if she finds the parish book for baptisms.

sue
that would be fantastic, i look forward to hearing from you!!
thankyou for being so very kind!!

no probs rebbecca
i'll get back to you thursday ok?

hi fairthorn
thanks for that link
how very useful !!

hi sue
what a very kind offer of help, thankyou
i really want to find her parents names and any possible siblings. she was my uncles mother and she died when my uncle was 5 weeks old and as a result he was bought up by his paternal grandfathers second wife and has no knowledge of his mothers family,

Some BENBOWS ON HERE

May be useful when you find Florence as these on here may be kin.


http://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/genuki/STS/Croxton/MIs.html

hi sue,
yes her death cert is in the name of florence mabel bradbury, but her marriage cert says mabel benbow marriage to james thomas bradbury.

rebbeca are you near stafford? if not and if you wish i could pop into the records office and do some checking for you just give me the info you want etc
sue

yes blossom same here i can only find that one 2
rebbeca are you sure of her name
sue

Either the vicar at Stone church as them OR they are in the Staffordshire Archives.

I will google to check.

this may sound like a silly question but where would i be able to access STONE PARISH BOOKS?