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I am really struggling with the Clarkson family history going from the census information, I am struggling to find Birth Records that match.

Thomas Clarkson D.O.B=1852 Preston Married Jane D.O.B=1849 maiden Name unsure of
Children=
Lizzie Clarkson-1874-Oldham
William Henry Clarkson-1876-Liverpool
Ada Calrkson-1878-Liverpool pos Married Alfred Wilson 1900 in Preston
Thomas Clarkson-1880-1881-West Derby
Thomas Albert Clarkson-1883-Liverpool
Charles Clarkson-1885-Preston
Mary Clarkson-1887-Preston-Married Albert Turnbull 1906

1911 census for Mary & Albert

Name: Mary Turnbull
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Darwen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 13 Quaker Lane Darwen Lancashire
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Cotton Weaver
Registration District: Blackburn
Registration District Number: 474
Sub-registration District: Darwen
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Piece: 25144
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Turnbull 30
Mary Turnbull 24
May Turnbull 2
Harriet Turnbull 1/12

and 1891 for Mary

Name: Mary Clarkson
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Clarkson
Mother's Name: Jane Clarkson
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Preston

Registration District: Preston
Sub-registration District: Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3433
Folio: 68
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Clarkson 39
Jane Clarkson 41
Lizzie Clarkson 17
Wm Henry Clarkson 15
Ada Clarkson 13
Thos Albert Clarkson 8
Charles Clarkson 6
Mary Clarkson 4

I wonder if Thomas & Jane never actually married - I can't find a death for Louisa & she is living with her sister and brother-in-law in 1881 &1891

this seems to be Thomas in 1871

Name: Thomas Clarkson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa Clarkson
Gender: Male
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration District: Preston
Sub-registration District: Preston

Thomas Clarkson 19 - flagger
Louisa Clarkson 19

I thought at first that this was the correct record for 1871 but then Louisa has 2 children in 1881 living with her William age 9 and John age 6 and says Married but husband not there on either.
:-(

In the years that you have been researching this.......where have you looked for birth info?

Surely this is one of the ones you list.......from freebmd

Births Jun 1876 (>99%)
CLARKSON William Henry Liverpool 8b 171

AND...........another one!

Births Jun 1882 (>99%)
Clarkson Thomas Albert W. Derby 8b 619

If you wish to know Jane's surname, purchase a copy one of the above


Before 1875, there were no penalties for not registering births, so the father's birth may simply never have been registered

I usually go onto Lancashirebmd or Ukbmd, it is difficult at times cross referencing D.O.B and maiden surnames of the the Mother. I also use the online church projects. That is why I have got totally confused. Getting the Maiden name wrong for the children's mum will possibly make other records wrong.

I used to check all records straight from genes reunited site itself but now I don't because of all the updates it has got a whole lot more complicated

Why not simply invest in one of the birth certs.........and get factual info about Jane?

I'm afraid I don't know anything about GR records..........I would never contemplate using them

Different Topic same surname

I have a Robert Clarkson D.O.B 1888 Preston whom Married a Florence Ainsworth on 25th September 1910 in Preston. Records state Florence Ainsworth Parent was a John Stead. Cannot find a birth record for Florence so a tad confused.

is this them in 1911?

1911 England Census
about Florence Clarkson Name: Florence Clarkson
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 26 Edan St Preston
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Cotton Weaver
Registration District: Preston
Registration District Number: 476
Sub-registration District: East Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Piece: 25267
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Clarkson 23
Florence Clarkson 19
James Clarkson 7 Weeks
Hannah Clarkson 27

There are 2 Florence Ainsworths on the 1901 census, Could be either.

1. Born 1891, Failsworth, Lancs., living Middleton, father John J. Ainsworth.

2. Born 1893, Darwen, living Darwen, father John Ainsworth.

Yes 1911 Census is Correct and there is only one James Clarkson born in 1911 Census in Preston

Clarkson James Preston 8e 488

But Mother's Maiden Surname is Hainsworth not Ainsworth?

Pronunciation?

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1915
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference

CLARKSON Robert East Preston Preston AINSWORTH EP/24/8

According to Robert's army service records, this is Florence's death which gives her the middle name of May which might help:

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1915
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
CLARKSON Florence May 22 East Preston Preston EP/15/5

She died of Pneumonia on 21st March, 1915

Her son Robert died 6 months later - also aged 6 months so she must have given birth to him soon before she died.

He died on 26th August, 1915 of Epidemic Enteritis at the home of his Aunt, Hannah, who must have been looking after him.

Dea x

This 'could' be her baptism?

Baptism: 25 Dec 1892 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Florence May Hainsworth - [Child] of John Hainsworth & Alice
Abode: High St
Occupation: Dealer
Baptised by: J. H. Rawden
Register: Baptisms 1889 - 1926, Page 98, Entry 257
Source: LDS Film 1278777

Dea x

This is her - note the father's name !!!

1901 census transcription details for: 21, Bispham Street, Preston
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 3952
Folio: 86
Page: 55
Reg. District: Preston
Sub District: St Peter
Parish: Preston
Enum. District: 27
Ecclesiastical District: All Saints
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 21, Bispham Street, Preston
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HAINSWORTH, John Stead Head Widower M 40 1861 Hardware Dealer
Leeds, Yorkshire
HAINSWORTH, Clara Daughter Single F 16 1885
Hull, Yorkshire
HAINSWORTH, Charity Lillian Daughter Single F 14 1887 Hardware Dealer
Preston, Lancashire
HAINSWORTH, John Albert Son M 11 1890
Preston, Lancashire
HAINSWORTH, Florence May Daughter F 9 1892
Preston, Lancashire


Dea x

Thankyou very much for the research information. :-)

I have been going through my threads and seem to have misplaced one for an

Albert Turnbull D.O.B 1881 Darwen, there was information about his Military Time, I did purchase the information as well but that has disappeared as well. Any ideas where it could of gone.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/turnbull/thread/1101134?d=asc

(google brings above)

Chris :)