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Kirsty

Kirsty Report 4 Jan 2009 23:09

Eek!! Thank you :)

Will get to work on all this tomorrow, bed is calling and then unfortunately work and I know if I start now I will still be here in the small hours, it's addictive! I am also trying to plan a wedding so it's all go :)

Thanks again!

Goodnight x

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 4 Jan 2009 23:04

I think this may be George the coachman. Another conundrum for you!! :)))

IGI Individual Record
GEORGE KITCHING
Christening: 24 FEB 1822 Sedbergh, Yorkshire, England
Parents:
Mother: SARAH KITCHING

Source Information:
Batch No.: C009243
Dates: 1813 - 1821, 1821 - 1837, 1839 - 1847

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 4 Jan 2009 22:30

That's a good idea, thanks :)

I meant Sarah Anns birth certificate? I hoped that would show me her parents and then hopefully I can also pursue her line, George Kitchen's real father and maybe Thomas Sambrooks parents?

Thanks!

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 4 Jan 2009 22:28

If you mean her birth cert, she thinks she was born Tixall, but her parents record otherwise.

1861 England Census
Name: Sarah Kitchen
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Melling, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Tixall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Stable Yard of Tixall Hall

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Stafford
Sub registration district: Colwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Kitchen 39 - widow; laundress, Bentam
Sarah Kitchen 15
Nancy Kitchen 11
George Kitchen 9

The birth that Rose found is in the reg'n district for Melling-with-Wrayton


1851 England Census
Name: Sarah A Kitchen
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George N
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Melling, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Tixall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Stafford
Sub registration district: Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
George N Kitchen 29 - coachman; Sellbergh, Yorks
Ann Kitchen 30 - Bentham, Yorkshire
Sarah A Kitchen 5
John Kitchen 3 - Cootle, Lancashire
Mancey Kitchen 1 - Tixall
George H Kitchen 2 Mo - Tixall

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 4 Jan 2009 22:16

The best way to handle this info is to copy it to some kind of word document then cut & paste.

Actually with all this cross info it might be better to print it out, & physically cut & paste. You seem to have some extra Sambrooks here but I bet a lot of them connect up eventually. I had that happen with my tree.

As for Sarah Ann Kitching/Kitchen which cert are you talking about?

Ozi.

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 4 Jan 2009 21:59

Thanks Rose :)

I got a little confused with all the information. Where would I obtain his baptism record? I have ordered the certificate.

I presume the birth certificate for George should show his mother and maybe father? However I know his mother so is the hope that it will show his real father? To continue the tree?

Also, Sarah Ann Kitching or Kitchen? I don't want to order the wrong cert for her?

Kirsty

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 4 Jan 2009 21:56

Sarah's birth:

Births Jun 1845
KITCHING Sarah Ann Lancaster 21 578

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 4 Jan 2009 21:21

You need to buy this:

Births Dec 1864
Kitchen George Stafford 6b 9

I doubt a father will be listed. If you're lucky, sonething might be mentioned on his baptism record.

Rose

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 4 Jan 2009 19:24

Hello!
I have got a little confused with the information you have added here, it all looks correct but I can't work out adding it to my tree?!

I have got as far as Sarah Ann Kitchen marrying Thomas Sambrooks but I can't get further back than that?

Could you please point me in the correct direction?

Thank you :) x

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 3 Jan 2009 23:09

Sorry! I was dragged out by my other half today and have only just got back!

Will have a look this evening / in the morning at all the brilliant info you have found and see what fits :)

Thanks again x

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 3 Jan 2009 20:21

Thanks, Rose.

I looked at the other thread but missed that. Unless there's another thread!!

Kirsty's gone very quiet.

Ozi.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 3 Jan 2009 20:14

Hi Ozi,

Sarah Ann's mother married a Johnson after her first husband died.

Rose

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 3 Jan 2009 10:29

Births Mar 1864
SAMBROCK George W Bromwich 6b 676
Births Dec 1864
SAMBROOK George Henry W Bromwich 6b 614

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 3 Jan 2009 09:14

Where's the Johnson family come in, Rose? I thought Thomas married a Sarah Ann Kitchen.

Ozi.

Marriages Jun 1867
CARDWELL William Stoke T. 6b 264
FORRESTER Eliza Ann Stoke T. 6b 264
>>>KITCHEN Sarah Ann Stoke T. 6b 264
>>>Sambrock Thomas Stoke T. 6b 264

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 3 Jan 2009 01:18

Kirsty,

On your other thread I posted this:

In 1881 Emily is transcribed as Ellen Lanbrook.

Rose

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 3 Jan 2009 00:27

All info for children with capital letters is from parish records. Non-capital letters has been submitted by a member of CLDS. This member may be guessing or they may have trawled through earlier records that are not online. You'll have to check for yourself.


Results for:
Birth/Christening, England, British Isles
Father: Edward Sambrook, Mother: Sarah
1. Lucy Sambrook - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: About 1829 Handsworth, Stafford, England
2. Caroline Sambrook - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: About 1833 Cheslyn Hay, Stafford, England
3. Samuel Sambrook - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1834 Handsworth, Stafford, England
4. JOHN SAMBROOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 13 MAY 1838 Saint Marys, Handsworth, Stafford, England
5. William Sambrook - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1840 Handsworth, Stafford, England
6. THOMAS SAMBROOKE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 28 JAN 1844 Cannock, Stafford, England
7. HARRIET SAMBROOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 JUN 1846 Cannock, Stafford, England
8. SARAH ANNE SAMBROOKE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 MAR 1851 Cannock, Stafford, England

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 3 Jan 2009 00:14

This is transcribed from a parish register:
IGI Individual Record
EDWARD SAMBROOK
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH FORSTER
26 MAY 1828 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 3 Jan 2009 00:03

1841 England Census
Name: Edward Sambrook
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Handworth With Soho
Hundred: South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Booth Street
Occupation: labourer

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub registration district: Handsworth
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Sambrook 30
Sarah Sambrook 30
Lucy Sambrook 12
Caroline Sambrook 8
Samuel Sambrook 7
William Sambrook 1

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Jan 2009 23:45

This looks like Thomas. Penkridge is the reg'n district for Cannock.

Births Sep 1845
Sambrook Thomas Penkridge 17 115


Hatherton is on the outskirts of Cannock.

1851 England Census
Name: Thomas Sambrook
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward
Gender: Male
Where born: Hatherton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Hatherton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Village of Hatherton
Occupation: scholar

Registration district: Penkridge
Sub registration district: Penkridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Sambrook 46 - married; ag lab
Caroline Sambrook 18 - daughter
William Sambrook 11
Fredrick Sambrook 9
Thomas Sambrook 7
Harriat Sambrook 5

The previous household is a 76 year old Elizabeth Sambrook, widow, with adult sons Thomas & James. Is this the Eliza, mother of Margaret in 1841? She had brother Thomas & James.


This may be Edward's wife.
1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Sambrook
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Seacroft, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Cannock
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Seacroft
Occupation: ag lab

Condition as to marriage: married

Registration district: Penkridge
Sub registration district: Penkridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 5c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hill 39
Mary Hill 32
Eliza Hill 10
Emely Hill 2
Sarah Sambrook 42

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Jan 2009 23:35

1841 England Census
Name: Margaret Sambrook
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Gender: Female
Where born: Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Hinstock
Hundred: North Bradford (Drayton Division)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Market Drayton
Sub registration district: Hodnet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Sambrook 65 - bricklayer
Eliza Sambrook 60
Thomas Sambrook 24
Margaret Sambrook 19
James Sambrook 16

There's also a 23 year old George Sambrook, bricklayer, & family on the previous page.

Also a 63 year old Thomas Sambrook, bricklayer, & wife.



Looks like Margaret got younger as she got older, if you know what I mean.
1851 England Census
Name: Margret Morgan
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Hinstock, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Hinstock
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address: Hinstock
Occupation:

Registration district: Market Drayton
Sub registration district: Moreton Say
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Morgan 25 - carpenter; Hinstock
Margret Morgan 29