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Just another little nudge for this one, hoping that someone else might be able to add to it!!

Another update!

I've just managed to sneak a look at the 1911 census. My great grandmother was still living with her husband, George Wood in 1911, so it seems like the person who told me that he remarried in 1911 maybe got it wrong!!

Back to the drawing board on that one! Just shows that you can't always believe what you are told.

My next job now is to find out for certain whether his mother went to Australia with him. She is named on his death records as Elizabeth Tate, but her last known name, to me, was Elizabeth Wood, but her mother's name was Tate? Wonder if she remarried too, or did she just change her name because as far as I know she was still married in England to George Wood? How complicated.

To sum it all up, my great grandmother Elizabeth Allinson, married George Wood in Pontefract in 1892. She already had 2 children, John Stephenson Allinson, and Albert Stephenson Allinson (my granddad). She never married their father and he was never named on either of their birth certificates, but I assume his name was Stephenson. (on Johns' marriage certificate his father was named as John Stephenson, a soldier, but I took that with a pinch of salt, maybe it was true?)

George Wood, so I have been told, remarried in 1911 in Bridlington, Yorkshire. And Elizabeth is named on her son's death as Elizabeth Tate.

Meanwhile John Stephenson Allinson married Mabel Healey in Altofts, Yorkshire in 1912. I found what I thought were their children born from 1913/1925, but in the meantime he joins the Australian army and gets married again in Australia, where he dies in 1936.

Do you ever wish that you had never started doing your family tree??

Thanks Tony, again for finding me the burial of Rose too.

I had already found all the army information thanks. I typed his name into my search and it threw all that at me!! That's what started my search into the Australian side of the family.

Thanks for showing an interest Cherilyn and for the marriage information. I wondered if she had been married before because the information that I had so far showed two different surnames for her. Thanks for sorting that one out for me.

And just to add.... Rose Elizabeth ALLINSON is buried at Tongala Cem. 5th Sept 1940.

also
John ALLINSON and Rose owned and ran a Cafe in Tongala in the early 1930s.....too.
Tongala is country Victoria......up near the boarder of Victoria & N.S.W between Shepparton and Echuca.


Tony....;>))

Hi Maggy, Suzanne & Tony

I have been reading along with interest, quite a curious one!

I've also noticed that Rose was a little older than John (abt 9 yrs!) and that it was her 2nd marriage.

This is her birth:

Surname: WALTERS
Given Names: Rose Elizabeth
Event: B
Father: Jas Webby [also shown as Welby on sibs regs]
Mother: Margaret STANLEY
Birth Place: EAGLEHAWK
Year: 1877
Reg Number: 15087

She was first married to Wm DOWSEY in 1898 (reg 1782) and they had 3 children in Eaglehawk. Possible death for Wm aged 31 in 1907 in Bendigo. This may explain why, when her details were added to John's enlistment papers as next of kin, she is shown as 'widow'. As she was about 41 when she married John it seems unlikley they had any children (can't see any in the index to 1920 anyway).

:-)
Cherilyn

Thanks for the offer re U.K Ancestry.

I am a member of both Aussie and U.K......but thank you anyway...:>))

Just a bit of extra info.

If you want to view John stevenson Allinson ( spelt stevenson ) service records on the N.A.A....( National Archives of Australia )

20 pages.
To read/view the actual "Digital" copy of Service records, which hold a reasonable ammount of info.( Think it gives his mothers address back in Yorkshire )
Also you can save/print each page to your computer.


http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

Goto: Search now – as a guest user

Goto: Keywords (or name)Type in...John Stevenson ALLINSON

Then :Search


Primary description of item 3032095

Title
Allinson John Stevenson : SERN 4730 : POB Yorkshire England : POE Melbourne VIC : NOK M Wood Mrs George
Series number
B2455 Control symbol
ALLINSON J S Contents date range
circa 1914 - circa 1920

Access status
Open Location
Canberra Barcode
3032095

Thanks again Tony.

By the way, I have subscription to Ancestry, the uk one, so if you want anyone looking up please just ask.

Hi Maggy. Thought would do a quick Cemetery check for you before i nick off to work.


Dandenong Cemetery for ALLINSON
Springvale Botanical Cemetery

921 ALLINSON John S ....... 2/2/1936 ....50 4730 PTE, 5 PNR BN

http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/vic/greater_dandenong/dandenong.htm

If i can help further....PM me.

Cheers. Tony

Ok, thanks again.

Your welcome...:>))

plus...i have friends ( a child hood mate ) who lives in Power street Dandenong....so it caught my eye with your ALLINSON family living there in 1936.


Best wishes.

Tony...:>))
Morning here....so must away to work.

Aahh that explains it then! Thanks anyway, you've answered a few questions for me, but I still have lots more to solve...lol..

Looks like you have found John's mother, Elizabeth, my great great grandmother too. Wondered where she'd got to! Her husband George Wood looks like he remarried in Bridlington, England in 1911, so funny goings-on there too!!

Hi Maggy. Because i was born in Melbourne Vic. i naturally carry the BDM's for the State of Victoria on c.d......, as this is where my lot came to from the U.K
in the 1850s onwards..... Yorkshire, Essex, Lancashire, Wiltshire

Tony ...:>))

So it looks like he had 2 wives, one in Australia and one in England!

Can I just ask you Tony where you're getting this information from?

Also a marriage in 1918 in Victoria.


Surname: ALLINSON
Given Names: Jno Stephenson
Event: M
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: DOWSEY
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Rose Elizth
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place:
Death Place:
Year: 1918
Reg. Number: 4550

Tony

Just noticed that you'd put his wife's death too. Now she is a mystery! I have his marriage certificate and he got married in 1912 to Mabel Healey in Altofts, West Yorkshire, England. I can't find a death for her.

The plot thickens!!

Thank you for that Tony, that fits in with the info that I already have. He was born in 1886.

Not sure about his father because he was illegitimate, but he was obvious called Stephenson because John and his brother had that as their middle name.

His mother's name was Elizabeth, so that fits but not Tate as the surname, she married someone called George Wood. Wonder if she remarried then.

Another mystery then, I seem to be making more than I'm solving!

Thanks again for looking, it's much appreciated.

Hi Maggy.
Dandenong is in the State of Victoria. Its a large town on the outskirts of Melbourne not to far from me.

There is death registered in Dandenong for a John Stephenson Allinson..in Victoria

Surname: ALLINSON
Given Names: Jno Stephenson
Father: Allinson Jno Stephenson
Mother: Elizth TATE
Death Place: DNONG
Age: 50
Age Code:
Year: 1936
Reg Number: 13547
Event: D



There is also a death for a Rose ( Elizabeth ) Allinson

Surname: ALLINSON
Given Names: Rose Elizth
Father: Walters Jas Wilby
Mother: Margt STANLEY
Death Place: TONGALA
Age: 62
Age Code:
Year: 1940
Reg Number: 20391
Event: D

Tony ( Melbourne )

Just found this with all my info on him, and it does mention a wife called Rose E, but then says he wasn't married!

http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=3032095&I=1&SE=1

Mmm wife called Rose, it looks like he had a wife in Aus and another over here!

I have all his Army information Suzanne, but it's what he did after then that I would like to know.

Thanks for looking for me.