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U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Jack Alexander Ross
Birth Date: 3 Jan 1896
RESIDENCE: Queens, New York
Birth: Greenock, Scotland
Race: White
Roll: WWII_2372049

Place of Residence: 23 - 44 - 125 Street College Pt. Queens N.Y.
Name of Person who will always know your address: Mrs. Elizabeth Ross (same address as above)
Name of Employer: R. Hoe? & Coy? Locast Ave & 138th Street, Bronx, N.Y.

Very odd. Two Elizabeth's, married at age 29, born in Scotland within one year of each other, with daughters named Cecelia, born in England within one year of each other, immigrating the same year. Is there a chance that they were visiting her sister and brother-in-law and were included on that census???

1930 US Federal Census, dated April 9
Name: Jack Ross
Home in 1930: Queens, Queens, New York
Age: 34
Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Scotland
Age at first marriage: 31; Elizabeth: 29
Parents' birthplace: Scotland; Elizabeth's: Scotland
Household Members:
Name Age
Jack Ross 34, immigrated 1923, Machinist, Meter? Works
Elizabeth Ross 31 born Scotland, immigrated 1928
Cecelia Ross 1 2/12, born England, immigrated 1928
George Ross 27, Brother, Lumber Handler, Lumber Yard
Address: 1015 47 Ave? (Apartment Building?)

Apparently Jack came over in 1923 and again later?

Murdoch Mitchell, the person whom Elizabeth with living with, immigrated in 1923 as well.

Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Murdoch Sutherland Mitchell
Arrival Date: 1 Jul 1923
Age: 28
Birth Date: abt 1895
Birth Country: Scotland
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scotch (Scotish)
Ship Name: Metagama
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Pattern Maker
Last Permanent Residence: Scotland, [cannot read] _ree_ock
Name/Address...whence alien came: Wife Mrs Henrietta Mitchell, 69 Nicolson St. Greenock
Final Destination: Mich Detroit
Joining relative/friend: Mrs. James Davidson.6530 North Cross Ave. Detroit Mich (Aunt)
Place of Birth: Scotland Greenock

It is really strange!

I knew that Jack had 1st went across to New York in 1923, he went to stay with an Uncle Alexander Ross, I have been able to trace limited details of Alexander.

So Jack must have went to New York in August 1923 sailing from Glasgow, came back to Scotland at some point(I havent been able to trace this yet), got married to Elizabeth(possibly Foster, just got her pregnant by days or weeks, sailed back to New York in Sept 1927 from Southampton, Cecelia was born in June 1928. Elizabeth and Cecelia sail to New York Nov 1928 from Southampton.

I am not too sure how you spell Cecelia or Cecilia.

Murdoch Mitchell didnt sail with Jack Ross in 1923, they are not on the same passenger listing.

everyone else except me is good at researching!

elizabeth and cecelia must have been visiting family. its too much of a coincidence having people by the same name staying with people that originally came from Greenock.

If anyone manages to come up with any further information that would help me, please post it on here. Got to go now, will be back on here tomorrow.

NY Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: John Alexander Ross
Arrival Date: 2 Sep 1923
Birth Year: abt 1896
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Ship Name: California
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Scotland
Line: 16
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_3362
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: Greenock
Page Number: 96

Married or Single: Single
Born: Scotland Greenock
Name/Address...nearest relative...whence alien came: Uncle. Alexander Ross. 35 West Blackhall St. Greenock
Final DestinatIon: N.Y. Brooklyn
Joining relative or friend: Uncle Alexander Ross. 4818 6th Avenue. Brooklyn. N.Y.
Length of Stay: Permanent
5' 4" Complexion: ; Hair: Fair; Eyes: Brown
Place of Birth: Scotland Greenock [Lined out]

Sorry, didn't see you posting...was trying to type the above.

marriage??
Elizabeth F Foster
Year of Registration: 1927
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's Surname: Ross
District: Fulham
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 947

Jack A Ross

1901 Scotland Census
about Elizabeth Foster
Name: Elizabeth Foster
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relationship: Daughter
Mother's Name: Cecilia <<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Female
Where born: Greenock, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 564/2
Registration district: Greenock West
Civil Parish: Greenock West
Town: Greenock
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 47 Crawford Street
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 153
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1901_196
Household Members: Name Age
Cecilia Foster 39
Robert Foster 13
Pheobe Foster 8
Henrietta Foster 6
Elizabeth Foster 2

Yes this is the correct marriage and 1901 census. Elizabeth and Cecilia were staying with her mother in Fulham before she set sail to NY. So Fulham must have been where she married.

On Ancestry.com I have found an entry on a one world tree. It could be Cecilia.

It records a Penelope Cecilia Ross b1929c in England, d1978 New York married to a Jack Mateycik c1920c Czechoslovakia, d1960 New York.

Marriage WFT Est 1941-1957....I dont know what this means.

They have a living desendant, a female, name not stated. (Iknow that Cecilia had a daughter, possibly called Theresa).

As far as I can see there are no contact details for the person that has submitted this.

How do I verify if this is my Cecilia?

My Cecilia had a middle initial Cecilia P Ross,