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Sylvia

Sylvia Report 13 Jan 2009 22:08

In 1901 they have these 7 children, in 1911 they have a thomas aged 7 so born 1904 and it also says Minnie is now annie, but it says they had 10 children but only 9 living can anyone help me on the other children? I think the earlier Thomas born 1898 has died! so i missing two children!

Name: Stephen Besley
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiveliscombe, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Wiveliscombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Wiveliscombe
Town: Whitefield
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Wellington (Somerset)
Sub-registration district: Wiveliscombe
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Household Members:
Name Age

Stephen Besley 39
Fanny Besley 42
John Besley 17
Florrie Besley 10
Minnie Besley 8
Frank Besley 6
Thomas Besley 5
Ernest Besley 3
Lily Besley 7 months

Pam

Pam Report 13 Jan 2009 22:15

Have you tried

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com ?

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 13 Jan 2009 22:40

yes tried there have found a william b 1880 but nothing else i can say exactly are their children, i have looked at 1881, 1901 and 1911 census. but cant look at 1891 as have no credits left! nothing on fbmd on minnie or annie but i do think they are the same person.

Pam

Pam Report 13 Jan 2009 22:45

1891 England Census

Name: Stephen Besley
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiveliscombe, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Bampton
Ecclesiastical parish: Bampton
Town: Shillingford
County/Island: Devon
Country: England


Registration district: Tiverton
Sub registration district: Bampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Besley 30 born Wiveliscombe
Fanny Besley 33 born Wiveliscombe
William Besley 10 born Wiveliscombe
John Besley 8 Born Wiveliscombe
Fred Besley 6 born Wiveliscombe
Mary A Besley 3 Born Bampton (Tiverton)
Florence Besley 1 Born Bampton(Tiverton)

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1768; Folio 28; Page 5; GSU roll: 6096878.


Pam

Pam Report 13 Jan 2009 22:48


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Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
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Besley Annie Tiverton 5b 417

Pam

Pam Report 13 Jan 2009 22:56

A possible


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Births Jun 1885 (>99%)
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Besley Frederick Wellington, Som 5c 305

Pam

Pam Report 13 Jan 2009 22:57

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1887 (>99%)
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BESLEY Mary Ann Tiverton 5b 442

Pam

Pam Report 13 Jan 2009 23:05

1901 England Census

Name: Stephen Besley
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiveliscombe, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Wiveliscombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Wiveliscombe
Town: Whitefield
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England


Registration district: Wellington (Somerset)
Sub registration district: Wiveliscombe
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Besley 39
Fanny Besley 42
John Besley 17
Florrie Besley 10
Minnie Besley 8 born Bampton (Tiverton)
Frank Besley 6 born Raddington, Somerset
Thomas Besley 5 born Bampton (Tiverton) (possible death in 1915)
Ernest Besley 3 born Brompton Ralph, Somerset
Lily Besley 7 months born Wiveliscombe


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2268; Folio: 8; Page: 8.


Pam

Pam Report 13 Jan 2009 23:12

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
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Besley Lily Wellington, Som. 5c 263

Vickier

Vickier Report 13 Jan 2009 23:23

Unfortunately I am unable to help but how have you accessed the 1911 census? I didn't think this was available yet.

Pam

Pam Report 14 Jan 2009 09:21

1911 census went on line 12 January.

Pam

Pam Report 14 Jan 2009 09:32

Household Record 1881 British Census

Search results


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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Stephen BESLEY Head M Male 20 Wiveliscombe, Somerset, England Ag Lab
Fanny BESLEY Wife M Female 22 Wiveliscombe, Somerset, England
William BESLEY Son Male 5 m Wiveliscombe, Somerset, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Maundown Road
Census Place Wiveliscombe, Somerset, England
Family History Library Film 1341567
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2359 / 65
Page Number 14

Pam

Pam Report 14 Jan 2009 09:43

Year of Birth is approximate:

William 1880
John 1884
Frederick 1885
Mary A 1887
Florence 1890
Annie (Minnie) 1892
Frank 1895
Thomas 1896
Ernest 1897
Lily 1900

Pam

Pam Report 14 Jan 2009 09:47

I couldn't find a death for Thomas...is it a transcription error ?

If it isn't then this one is a possibility...where were they living in 1911 ?


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Births Mar 1904 (>99%)
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Besley Thomas Taunton 5c 287

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 14 Jan 2009 18:05

Thanks for all that ill check it against what i have...
In 1911 they were living in wiveliscombe -Jews cottage.
In the 1911 census they do have a Thomas Besley aged 7 that would make him born 1904.
In 1901 they were at the same address with a son aged 5 im thinking this thomas has died by 1911 and they had another son who they called thomas..
I dont know the area so taunton could be where they registered after 1901 as the others are all wellington....

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 14 Jan 2009 18:37

ok this is a bit mad now i have 12 children!!
William b 1880 in 1881 &1891 census
John b 1885 in 1901 census
fred b1885 in 1891 census
mary b 1888 in 1891 census
florence b 1891 in 1891 & 1901 census
Annie b1893 in 1901 & 1911 census
frank b 1895 in 1901 census
thomas b 1896 in 1901 census
ernest b 1897 in 1901 census
lilly b 1900 in 1901 &1911 census
henry b 1898 in 1911 census
thomas b 1904 in 1911 census

now im really confused!!!

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 14 Jan 2009 18:50

There is no record of a frank born 1895 but this one in 1898
Births Sep 1898 (>99%)
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BESLEY Frank James Wellington, Som. 5c 275
could mean henry is really frank!!!!
So that would mean im down to 11 children.

Pam

Pam Report 14 Jan 2009 22:11

As there is a gap between first and second child, perhaps both of these are yours:


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Births Mar 1883 (>99%)
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BESLEY John Wellington, Som 5c 319

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Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
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Besley John Wellington Som. 5c 325


Edit : Can't find a death registration so I don't know which one is yours.

Pam

Pam Report 14 Jan 2009 22:17

Either of these could be your William born 1880:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1880 (>99%)
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Besley William Wellington, Som. 5c 317

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Births Dec 1880 (>99%)
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BESLEY William Wellington Som 5c 285

Edit: As the page numbers are so close perhaps it is the first William (MQ 1880) and John born MQ 1883.

Pam

Pam Report 14 Jan 2009 22:31

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
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Besley Florence Lily Tiverton 5b 419