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These are my great grandparents - Ellen Davison (nee Hoare) (b.1896) & Henry Davison (b.1892).

I have most details for them apart from deaths - which i cannot seem to find anywhere!

Can anyone please help.

I have posted about these people before - here are the threads so nothing repeated -

http://genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1061034
http://genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1065932
http://genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1065495

New suggestions would be really appreciated as been stuck on the deaths for what seems like forever !!

Regards

Donna

Hi Flo,

Sorry yes, the last known of Ellen Davison is April 1928 when she registered her daughters birth in Dover, Kent.

The last known of Henry Davison is 1915 from his WWI medal roll card.

Henry is not named on his children's birth cert's so cannot follow him through that way.

After then I have no trace.....

I really appreciate your help Flo,

Henry is named on one of his other daughter's birth certs , the birth was registered by him on 7th January 1915 & his occupation was Company Sergeant Major, Kings Own Royal Lancaster Regiment 6th Battalion.

Unfortunately he isn't named on the marriage cert the box has just been left blank.

I hope this info helps.

Anything else I can help with please let me know, I appreciate your time.

Hello again,

Just an update on Henry Davison,

I looked at his WWI medal roll card it states the theatre of war he 1st served in was the Asiatic and his date of entry therein - 27 Sep 1915.

So that is the latest date I have for him.

I just found something else - I had a look at the National Roll of the great war and found the following :

Davison, H., C.S.M., 4th K.O. (R.Lancaster Regt.)
He volunteered at the outbreak of the war, and in March 1915 was drafted to the Dardanelles, where he took part in the First Landing, and the first and second battles of Krithin. He was wounded at Sulva Bay, but afterwards served at the Evacuation of the Peninsula, and returned home in January 1916. He was then retained on important duties at his depot, and did valuable work until June 1919 when he was demobilised. He holds the 1914-15 star, and the General Service and Victory Medals.
2 Sarah Street, Salford.

So he worked until 1919, I should think this is the right H.Davison, judging by his rank and regiment, also Ellen & Henry had a daughter in 1921 and she was registered in Salford - which matches up with the address given above.

Bromley is in Kent??

Because on her daughter's birth cert in 1928 the address is 13a Last Lane, Dover, Kent.

OOOOhhhhhhhhh I am so stuck !

Hello Flo,

Again many thanks for your help.

I will probably at some point have a shot at ordering that cert for Ellen, though I will have to wait maybe as £7 is a risk that I can't afford at the moment !

Thanks for your trawling !

Oh My Goodness !!!

If that is him ..... that means the child Ellen had in 1928 (which is my grandmother!!) wasn't full sister to the rest of the children.

I wonder if she did remarry? Now there's a thought ....

Thanks for your help regarding this!

There was a child born 1921 - Joan .R. Davison registered in Salford.
Then in 1924 there was another child born Cyril Claude Davison registered back in Dover, Kent.

Here is the list - it's easier ! :

Births Mar 1915 (99%)
Davison Ruby Hoare Dover 2a 2057

Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Davison Helena Hoare Dover 2a 2156

Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
Davison Hubert H Hoare Salford 8d 45

Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Davison Joan R Hoare Salford 8d 55

Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
Davison Cyril C Hoare Dover 2a 1853

Births Dec 1926 (>99%)
Davison Flossie Hoare Dover 2a 1698

Births Jun 1928 (>99%)
Davison Joyce Hoare Dover 2a 1848

So the question is : is it possable that Henry stayed in Salford and Ellen returned to Dover and had the last 3 children by someone else? But just continued the family name???

Ooooh my brain ticking even more .....

My grandmother Joyce was born 1928, so if you have found the right Henry's death in 1925 in Salford , then it's poss that Henry may not have been her father.

Henry was named on Ruby's birth cert in 1915, I have not got Helena or Hubert's birth cert yet, I do have Joan's, Cyril's, Flossie's and Joyce's and Father's name has been left blank.

Yes that could very well be the case....

I will try that death cert and see if it's him, I have no record of him having a middle name though, all I really know is his occupation which was his army days in the Lancaster Regiment.

I wonder if i can find any more info from that and I wonder where to find that sort of info?

With thanks.

I have tried Googling it but not with much luck.

My father can sort of remember (though states that it's may not be 100% correct) that Joyce & a sister & a brother were brought up in a children's home from quite a young age.

That could possibly be Flossie & Cyril as the closest 2 to her.

Joyce was meant to have returned to the children's home to find details about her parents but although the home was pleased to see her , they would not give her any details.

I wonder if that's true??

I wish I had someone to ask all these questions too !!!

Eek!

That's another problem, I cannot find his birth either, that has been a real pain too !

According to census he was born around 1892.


I know from Henry's marriage cert in 1913 that his father was George Edgar Davison and he was deceased.

I found George Edgar Davison in census and it said he was born in Hunslet but as for Henry cannot find anything!

Also cannot find Henry or his father George Edgar Davison in the 1901 census.

Cannot find a marriage for George either.

Hunslet is sort of Leeds, Yorkshire area I believe.

I think you are right about the Henry business, I will send for the one that you gave me the details for in 1925 as soon as I have the funds available xx

Again many thanks for spending so much of your time on this !

Speak tomorrow.

Wow , you are still at it, you have the patience of a saint !!

Thank you !

I have before ordered the one registered in Chorlton - which was wrong - so I know its not that 1 !

I would agree with the huddersfield one !

Do you think it would be best getting the death cert first or a stab in the dark with the huddersfield birth cert??

many thanks

if i do not reply tonight its probably because I have fell asleep face down in my keyboard - I will reply asap so please don't give up on me!!

Hello Flo,

I am really not sure about the age my Grandmother Joyce was placed in the foster home, it was in Kent apparently and it was meant to be from a young age but like I say nothing is concrete as it is family repeating the story and you know how it can change!!

I think she was definitely put in a home but when is the question !?

As for George Edgar on the census, I think the census I found him in wasn't him if you catch my drift because there is a george edward also born around the same time in Leeds area that I was mistakenly following so a bit stuck there !
All I know is when Henry married Ellen in 1913 it stated on there that George Edgar was a dairyman and deceased!! So he died before then.

It's a bit tricky with Ellen and as to why she put her children in a home - if only I knew which home it was and if there were any records remaining !

Hmmmmmm.......

Hello again Flo,

Many thanks for trawling!

Ellen could have very well remarried - that would explain not being able to find the death.

I think you are completely right about getting George's birth cert that will be my next move, will see if I can order tomorrow.

Yeah that is the 1891 census entry that I found for George E Davison, but when I kept coming up with George Edward in other census's I dumped that one as the E doesn't necessarily mean Edgar I found out ! lol

Also just to add , on later death indexes it states the date of birth .
Obviously I know from her birth cert that Ellen was born 29 Feb 1896.
So if a later death, I could possibly connect the death with the birth date .

Florence

Would be interested to know which site you are ordering certs from and they ring you up if the match is not correct.

I use the ofcial site and they hardly ever refund anything but sometime and I mean sometimes give you 50% refund if you presure them

Regards
Susanne