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Euphratis Mary chisholm

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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 Feb 2009 21:30

1891
the image is really faint and must have been done with very watery ink but it is the same family and williams surname[harris] and occupation are just readable as ,,blast furnace man,,gladys is just readable but i think the other girl might be ,,esther?on image


1891 England Census
about Robert G ??Arrit
Name: Robert G ??Arrit
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Linthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William ??Arrit 27
Mary ??Arrit ??3
Mary J ??Arrit 4
Gladys ??Arrit 7
Eskate ??Arrit 5
Thomas ??Arrit 3
Robert G ??Arrit 1 <<<<<def robert c

BoroGirl

BoroGirl Report 16 Feb 2009 20:44

your a star Viv
Aogg has William as a seaman on page one I think

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 Feb 2009 20:42

cant see william harris in 1901 in england or wales,sorry,

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 Feb 2009 20:30


you lucky girl ,as rach is with maternal granny and grandad so now you have williams mothes maiden name and her parents name

1871 Wales Census
about Rachel Harris
Name: Rachel Harris
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Bedwellty
Ecclesiastical parish: Rumney
Town: Rumney
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 243
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Morris 46
Rachel Morris 55
Rachel Harris 10

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 Feb 2009 20:22


either of these could be the death
Deaths Jun 1863 (87%)
Chisholm Robert Chester le S 10a 227
Deaths Dec 1863 (98%)
CHISHOLM Robert Berwick 10b 194

only ones to fit
and new marriage

Marriages Jun 1864 (>99%)
Chisholm Jane Hartlepool 10a 199
Miller George Hartlepool 10a 199


didnt hang about did she??

BoroGirl

BoroGirl Report 16 Feb 2009 20:17

yes sorry thankyou Seaham lass got carried away then

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 Feb 2009 20:14

rachel and joseph
looks like they are the witnesses at the wedding

thos rd must be a brother of william as it says hes mary and thomas,s son
dont know where rachel is in 1871 or william in 1901
still looking for them!!

thank you seaham lass for the hard work of finding them.

BoroGirl

BoroGirl Report 16 Feb 2009 20:10

thanks Viv thats the conection I needed
the Wales - Middlesbrough now my heads not frazzled its in over drive cos boths sides of my family came from wales and it was always thought one side was Scottish , gonna bend my mum's ear later

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 Feb 2009 20:04



1881 England Census
about Thos. Harris
Name: Thos. Harris
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Pembrokeshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Munroe Cottage
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Blast Furnace Foreman (Iron)

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos. Harris 53
Mary Harris 48
Esther Harris 24
Rachel Harris 22
Joseph Harris 19
Sarah Harris 17
Jas. Harris 15
Margaret Harris 13
Thos.Rd. Harris 10
***********************************
ame: Mary Harris
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thos.
Gender: Female
Where born: Monmouth, Wales

all kids born middlesbro

BoroGirl

BoroGirl Report 16 Feb 2009 19:43

it beat me too Viv but my grandad always told me I'd named my daughter Rachel after some relation but I didn't not conciously anyway cos I didn't know,

where is Monroe cottage in 1881?

so in 1901 Euphratis Mary was home alone with the kids yes?
and had a daughter Mary J?
wheres William then?
is Thos.Rd. Harris in 1881 Thomas Richard and William's brother?
Rachel and Joseph are William's brother and sister and witness's at his wedding?
Where's Rachel gone in 1871?
Robert Chisholm died between 1861 and 1871 census ?
and Jane married George Miller?
Rodolphus, Juliet and George are Millers ?

did I get this right or has my brain really frazzled this time? lol









doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 16 Feb 2009 17:59

Jane Miller 44
Robert Chisholm 18
Rodolphus Miller 16
Juliet C. Miller 14
Geo.M. Miller 11

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 Feb 2009 17:56


its chisholm on the original

1871

Name: Mary Christolm
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Stranton
Town: West Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 81
Household Members:
Name Age
George Miller 42
Jane Miller 36
Mary Christolm 13
Jane Christolm 11
Rodolphus Christolm 6
Juliet Christolm 4
George Christolm 2

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 16 Feb 2009 17:55

Jane remarried after Robert Chisholm died.

1871 Stranton
George Miller 42
Jane Miller 36
Mary Christolm 13
Jane Christolm 11
Rodolphus Christolm 6
Juliet Christolm 4
George Christolm 2

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 16 Feb 2009 17:46

1861 Stranton
Mary Chisholm
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Monkwearmouth
Civil Parish: Stranton
Town: West Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 30f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 78
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Chisholm 27, Operative Engineer, born Black Fell
Jane Chisholm 25, born Beamish
Elizabeth Chisholm 5, born Black Fell
Mary Chisholm 3, born Monkwearmouth
Jane Chisholm 11 Mo, born Monkwearmouth
Ann Lowes 14, nurse maid, born Hartlepool



FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 Feb 2009 17:38


got them i think!!


1861 England Census
about Mary Chisholm
Name: Mary Chisholm
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Monkwearmouth

Civil Parish: Stranton
Town: West Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 30f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 78
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Chisholm 27
Jane Chisholm 25
Elizabeth Chisholm 5
Mary Chisholm 3
Jane Chisholm 11 Mo
Ann Lowes 14

robert is an apprentice engineer

ann lowes is a servant

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 16 Feb 2009 17:35

1871
Thos Harris 42
Mary Harris 37
William Harris 17
Esther Harris 14
Joseph Harris 9
Sarah Harris 7
James Harris 5
Margaret Harris 3
Thos R Harris 11 months

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 16 Feb 2009 17:31

Munroe Cottage 1881

Thos. Harris 53
Mary Harris 48
Esther Harris 24
Rachel Harris 22
Joseph Harris 19
Sarah Harris 17
Jas. Harris 15
Margaret Harris 13
Thos.Rd. Harris 10

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 Feb 2009 17:20


1901?with hubby away

1901 England Census
about Mary Harris
Name: Mary Harris
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Harris 42
Mary J Harris 19
Thomas H Harris 13
Robert C Harris 11
Gwondothline Harris 9
William Harris 7
George M Harris 4

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 Feb 2009 16:37


have you got them on 1891 or 1901 to tell us where they may have been born?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 16 Feb 2009 16:10


this one beats me,you found anything lesley?
ive even been to scotlands people and the scots census but nothing!
do you think she may have been born abroad and isnt euphrati a river?