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evie i thought that i would tell you , i had a reply from my dad from the letter i wrote. thankyou so much for all your help . he was in finsbury park and we will soon be reunited again. sally

Haha indeed.

I myself am descended from the illegitimate offspring of the black sheep youngest son of a Viscount, I'll have you know!

Or so my great-grandfather had everybody know, anyhow. ;)

European royalty, well, they're a dime a dozen, you know.

And I think the closest you get in any case, at least so far, is having some distant ancestors in common with a prince -- *maybe*!

On that score, I have some distant ancestors (although slightly closer, and actually confirmed!) in common with a famous Labour peer about 80 years ago.

So we may be tied. ;)

maureen did you think it would be anything like this has turned out to be . i know you were in suspence the olther day. well whod have thought am i the first royal decendant you have had on genes reunited. ? (haha)
sally

Sally,
I do hope your soon to be son-in-law will in future refer to you as Her Majesty and your daughter as Princess...
(grins)
Maureen

lulabelle thankyou for helping find the von fgug family it has turned out to be stunning info.

no nor do i it is stunning though isnt it ? i suppose i may get more answers when i hear from my dad or uncle and i will let you know then . i wiil thank maureen and lulabelle for all their hard work too thanks evie i shall keep all this info and get my soon to be son inlaw to sort out for me, bye for now sally

Nah, but I sure have to know how to use search engines for a living.

Now -- it was Maureen who came up with your stunning von Gfug to start with here, remember!

And -- it was lulabelle who found Camilla in the census -- and then I had to find her at a different site with a different name ;) Cpig indeed ...


I haven't found anything to make the link between yours and those others. There are several von Gfug entries in the International Genealogy Index but there's only one who looks like he might be connected, from the location. Here's the brief rundown of what's there.


Results for: Von Gfug, Germany

1. Elise Adele Helene Von Gfug
Gender: Female
Birth: 24 FEB 1869 Dortmund, Westfalen, Preussen

2. FRANZ EMIL FRIEDRICH WILHELM VON GFUG
Gender: Male
Marriage: 21 FEB 1865 Sankt Felizitas Katholisch, Luedinghausen Stadt, Westfalen, Preussen

3. FRANZ EMIL FRIEDR. WILH. V. GFUG
Gender: Male
Marriage: 14 FEB 1867 Sankt Marien Evangelisch, Dortmund, Westfalen, Preussen

4. FRIEDRICH WILHELM VON GFUG
Gender: Male
Christening: 24 OCT 1869 Sankt Markus, Berlin Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen ---- same area in Germany

5. FRITZ EMIL LOUIS V. GFUG.
Gender: Male Christening: 18 OCT 1875 Sankt Marien Evangelisch, Dortmund, Westfalen, Preussen

6. JOHANNA VICTORIA VON GFUG
Gender: Female
Christening: 22 NOV 1860 Evangelisch, Sonsbeck, Rheinland, Preussen

7. CARL RUDOLPH ALEXANDER V. GFUG
Gender: Male
Christening: 09 MAY 1872 Sankt Marien Evangelisch, Dortmund, Westfalen, Preussen

8. Catharina von Gfug
Gender: Female
Marriage: 1595 Neudorf, , Schlesien, Preussen

9. Catharina von Gfug
Gender: Female
Birth: Nendorf, , Schlesien, Preussen

10. Catharina von Gfug
Gender: Female
Marriage: 1595 Neudorf, , Schlesien, Preussen

>> 11. CUNO JULIUS VON GFUG-VOLLERSDORF
Gender: Male
Christening: 20 JUN 1862 Jerusalem, Berlin Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen

12. LUCIE AUGUSTE SOPHIE VON GFUG
Gender: Female
Christening: 05 SEP 1874 Sankt Marien Evangelisch, Dortmund, Westfalen, Preussen

13. LUCIE AUGUSTE SOPHIE VON GFUG
Gender: Female
Christening: 05 SEP 1874 Sankt Marien Evangelisch, Dortmund, Westfalen, Preussen

14. Miss von Gfug
Gender: Female
Birth: About 1445 Of Klein Ellgnith, , Schlesien, Preussen

15. V. GFUG
Gender: Male
Birth: 28 MAR 1873 Sankt Marien Evangelisch, Dortmund, Westfalen, Preussen


I don't really know where you go from here, I have to say!

oh my god i have just returned home from a night out, and read this iam in shock. to think we started looking for my father and ended with german royalty its fantastic. they were right all along, why did they end up in wales ? i have had a few drinks and it slowly sinking in. evie tou are great i am amazed at what you can do do you do this for a living ?if not you should. kind regards sally

Well, Maureen isn't around, and the suspense is killing me, so Sally -- here's what she found in the International Genealogy Index. (It is an "extracted" record, which means it comes straight from official records and is reliable.)

"Preussen" is Prussia = Germany.


CUNO JULIUS VON GFUG-VOLLERSDORF
Birth: 17 JAN 1862
Christening: 20 JUN 1862 Jerusalem, Berlin Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen
Father: GUSTAV ADOLPH VON GFUG-VOLLERSDORF
Mother: SOPHIE AMALIE SCHUBERT
Batch No.: C998341


So what do you think about that?

That is your great-great-grandfather, if I've got the number of greats right. Camilla's father.


If you google the name "von gfug", this is one of the search results:


http://gsteinbe.intrasun.tcnj.edu/royalty/ahnenreihe/Bernhard.html

European Royalty during World War II:
Genealogical Tables

Bernhard, Prince of the Netherlands (1911-____)
and
Aschwin, Prince of Lippe-Biesterfeld (1914-____)
...
Great-Great-Grandparents
Caesar Alexander, Count von Wartensleben (1785-1851)
Friederike Wilhelmine von Gfug (1789-1831)

Great-Great-Great-Grandparents
# Johann Friedrich Carl von Gfug (1741-1816)
# Johanne Juliane von Lestwitz (1756-1824)


You actually could come from the same von Gfugs -- and given that it's hardly a common name, I would suppose that you do.

Okay Maureen -- go ahead and give Sally the details from the IGI. ;)

Sally, if you want to try again first, search the IGI like this:

given name CUNO
surname VON GFUG
region GERMANY

(You select the region from a list when you click the arrow under Region)

Don't fill in anything else.

Then click Search!

Commonwealth War Graves Commission
Von Gfug, Cuno

Son of Cuno Von Gfug. Born at Barry Dock.

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2969588

Picture of Steam Trawler
http://www.llangibby.eclipse.co.uk/milfordtrawlers/accidents%20&%20incidents/yarmouth.htm

Annie was born in Bath. Her dad was running a pub there

CORN STREET BREWERY Corn Street
1851 - 72. Rachael Rebbeck / 1876 - 90. Amos Down / 1895. Von Gfug Cuno / 1902. George Goddard

hi evie i knoe i started this search looking for leslies mothers name as i thought it was sad i didnt even know my grandmothers christian name. also i was looking for my father , my parents split in 1970 he wasnt even around for the birth of my sister alison. my mum died in 1983 6 weeks after amy was born and took all the jessup grosvenor history with her. i was never allowed to speak about him while she was alive. on my 21stbirthday my uncle david phoned out of the blue and said he had a pearl necklace that annie camiilla jessup had left me in her will to be given to me when i reached 21 . my mum had died the previous year and was the only child of my grandparents, who i know everything about. my uncle david jessup gave me my fathers address in 1984 and i contacted him ,but i was not ready and very fragile back then and i was scared of causing my grandparents more pain. iam now 46 years old and have no family left apart from my 3 children husband and sister and now uncle thanks yo you .but iam intrigued to find out about my fathers family . until last week i had never touched a computer and iam ok on basics i dont understand some of your terms . i live in devon now a long way from london where i was born i have been here for 25 years so i cant even visit graves or places which were familiar . ooh this is turnining into my life story and its taken me about thity mins to write anyway evie i will look forward to recieving your replies kind reards sally.

oh evie i must be thick or something i cant find anything on that family search thing you gave me . what is it that you have found ? i went to bed last night absolutely shattered , have been doing this all week while searching for a wedding dress for amy. we are going to see a new collection of dresses today at 3pm ,and tonight iam going out to celibrate my husbands birthday, so i will try and look at my threads inbetween. i loked on that site for a cunoson gfug and typed in germany and no results were found what am i doing wrong? oh bye the way if you want to see where amy is getting married its at the two bridges hotel devon . thankyou evie for everything you do have the patience of a saint sally

Googled out of interest

N

This is horrible, I can't be back here until latish tomorrow afternoon probably, and I'm going to miss your discoveries.

Once you've found the surprise in the IGI, Sally, google "von gfug".

http://www.google.co.uk

and look down near the bottom of the first page of results.

You never know ...

Oh, the suspense.

Sally: search the IGI.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/igi/search_igi.asp

Select Germany for the region, and just search for the name of the person we know was born in Germany.


Oh my goodness, look at him!

What amazing luck.

Sally, you have to copy what you find into this thread.

OOO! Just when it was getting interesting! Do you think you'll get to that guy on the IGI for tomorrow's story??

Maureen

I don't know anything at all about the Bethnal Green Tube disaster. Maybe I should go and read the thread. It's a pretty long one though, isn't it?