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Ok Ness. I have to get lunch now for the family.

Just read other message. Yes you can look for other children but I only get William when I do that.


When you get an Extracted birth/Christening at the bottom is a number, if you click on that number then enter the parents and just put the surmane in ther other box and click on search it should give the other children of those parents. Dos'nt always work though.

Mel x

Hi Mel
Just in case you come back I am calling it a day (in Oz and up since 5 this morning!) but will look in again over the weekend.

Thanks again for everything you have found
Ness

Found William's christening on familysearch - mother Phoebe, father John.
Can I know search for other children of John & Phoebe without names?

Pheobe is head of the house so she must be a Widow. John Brooks is in the same house but down as Farm Servant but they have transcribed him as being on his own. Thats why I put both census on there. That must be how he met Hannah though. The 1841 census has two pages to look at viewed as one page. It is not until the next census that you only get one page to view at a time.

I should think that Albert is Pheobe's grandson. Perhaps William was married to Rebecca although she is only 15!! The 1841 census is not very good because they rounded the ages up to 5 years sometimes. John Brooks is down as born 1825 and thats what I had put in when I found him. Hannah Beard is down for the right year of birth though at 1834.

Sorry Mel - are the at the same house as Phebe Bloor or living next door?

John Bloor and Marths were mistranscribed on the 1841 census thats why I could'nt find them

1841 England Census
about John Boom
Name: John Boom
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Ipstones
Hundred: North Totmonslow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cheadle
Sub registration district: Ipstones
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Boom 25
Martha Boom 25
Hannah Beard 7

Ooh, WELL DONE!!! Another piece of the jigsaw slotted in - if only the census was carried out in 1931! Never happy are we!
I think most of the area seem to be related and I'm sure when I can get it all straight that they will end up in my tree!
I wonder where 5 mth old Alfred fits in - child of Martha & John? Poss son of William. I will have to try and find him on a later census.
How do you get to see the neighbours?
Thank you for all the time you have spent on this today!

Found John in 1841 he is a Servant for the family of Pheobe Bloor 65 a Farmer but has been put down seperately. Living at Bottom Lane, Ipstone.They are on page 1. Also on the next page 2 is John Bloor wife Martha and her daughter Hannah Beard aged 7 yrs. John Bloor is a publican aged 25 on this census and Martha too.

1841 England Census
about John Brooks
Name: John Brooks
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Ipstones
Hundred: North Totmonslow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:


Registration district: Cheadle
Sub registration district: Ipstones
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Brooks 15


1841 England Census
about Albert Bloor
Name: Albert Bloor
Age: 5 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Ipstones
Hundred: North Totmonslow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cheadle
Sub registration district: Ipstones
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Phebe Bloor 65
William Bloor 26
Rebecca Bloor 15
Albert Bloor 5 Mo

If you can search by address I found somebody (i've marked possible, but my note is incomplete) at Broad Bottom, Aston & Oldham, Cheshire. I noted this address as some registrations for Ipstones/Bradnop read as Cheadle which is also Cheshire.
Is this something you can check?

Im just trying to look through my info to see if I can find anything

I can't find Martha on the 1841 census which is annoying, or Hannah, or John Brooks!!!!!! B*m.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Martha Beard
Name: Martha Beard
Year of Registration: 1840
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Leek
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 17
Page: 75

Martha Beard 1840 Leek Staffordshire

Louisa Bennet 1840 Leek Staffordshire

John Bloor 1840 Leek Staffordshire

Thanks Mel. I have a death for a Thomas Beard in 1838 which I think is probable the right one and a re-marriage for Martha in 1840 - to John Bloor.
Through previous help on here & familysearch I think I have the children of John Brooks (1823) and Hannah. It really is the Brooks line that I have stumbled on.
Mind you I suppose when you start going pre 1800 things are bound to get a bit sketchy!

THOMAS BEARD Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: MARTHA STUBBS Family
Marriage: 18 MAY 1833 Ipstones, Stafford, England


Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Hannah Beard
Name: Hannah Beard
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Leek
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 17
Page: 63



Record
Isaac Bailey 1849 Leek Staffordshire
View Record
Hannah Beard 1849 Leek Staffordshire
View Record
Ann Brassington 1849 Leek Staffordshire
View Record
John Brooks 1849 Leek Staffordshire
View Record
George Hays 1849 Leek Staffordshire
View Record
Ellen Jepson 1849 Leek Staffordshire
View Record
Henry West 1849 Leek Staffordshire
View Record
Hannah Whitaker 1849 Leek Staffordshire

It gets really confusing as Martha Bloor was previously Beard (nee Stubbs). Hannah's father was Thomas Beard - now there are Beards all over the area! I have 2 Herbert Beards ca 1863 & 1865 - trying to find who goes where and with whom is proving another nightmare - somewhere along the line I think cousins married cousins! They are living at Dirty Gutter, Bottom House, Low House, Low Top!! But thats another subject entirely!

The John Brooks here as you say is ca 1823, but I havent been able to find anything for John & Millicent! The John&Jane scenario could be linked in but its difficult to decipher with my limited access as this thread has proved!

It's all over the place and I'm trying to get it all in order!
Thanks for the effort you have put in x

Forgot to say they were living at Dirty Gutter and next door at Green Gutter was a Thomas Cope and his family.

Hmmm some more investigation then! I thought they only used the same if the elder child had died!
Thanks for all your help anyway - as always im very grateful
Ness xx

They are different dates for both John's otherwise I would have thought it was a transcription error. They are the only ones that come up and when I look on Ancestry I don't get a Millicent Brooks at all. Only one who would be too old.

So this is your John c1823 on the 1851 census. I see where you are coming from now.

1851 England Census
about John Brooks
Name: John Brooks
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Son-in-law
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Ipstones, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradnop
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Leek
Sub registration district: Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Martha Bloor 38 1813 Butterton, Staffordshire

John Brooks 26 1825 Ipstones, Staffordshire, Son in Law

Hannah Brooks 17 1834 Ipstones, Staffordshire
Thomas Brooks 2w 1851 Grandson Bradnop, Staffordshire,
Peter Tomkinson 14 1837 SERVANT Alton, Staffordshire

Martha Bloor is a widow and Farmer of 50 acres