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If you don't get the birth cert, you'll never know what the mother said about the child's father. No-one on here can guess.

As she was listed Bendall on the index, and on 1911 census, the odds are that
she lied and named Isaac, but the only way to find out is to spend £9.25 on the cert

Please, Valerie, if you ask for help in future, stick to one thread, as it saves people looking for info which you already know

Most of the stuff on here had already been added to your other thread.

Freda is Margaret Bendall nee Mackrell daughter, she was born in 1903 4 years after Isaac died and 3 years before Margaret married William Wright.

Freda is Margaret Bendall nee Mackrell daughter, she was born in 1903 4 years after Isaac died and 3 years before Margaret married William Wright.

First name(s) FREDA IVY
Last name DIGBY
Gender Female
Birth day 30
Birth month 7
Birth year 1903
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1993
District NORWICH
District number 6391A
Register number A8B
Entry number 236
Date of registration mm/yy 1293

You need to buy certificates of her birth and marriage



England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005

Name:Freda I Bendall

Spouse Surname:William W Digby

Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1930

Registration district:Erpingham

Inferred County:Norfolk

Volume Number:4b

Page Number:201

so ..............


your other thread explains just why Freda cannot be Isaac's daughter .....................



Valerie Report 13 Aug 2014 05:52

Hi all to have been so kind in helping me. I have just got back from the Uk I did some grave yard tramping and found a few interesting things out. Isaac was unlikely to be Freda's father as he had been put into the workhouse in Thorpe in 1895 according to his death cert he died of general paralysis so would not have been able to father children. There is also a daughter Dorothy Bendall died in 1896 11 days old buried in Weybourne
So who was Freda's father could it of been William Wright????






This is exactly why GR asks that people do not start more than one thread on the same person or family ..........

.......... the helper members repeating searches that have already been carried out!

Isaac could just have been her father .................. deaths have to be reported within 5 days of the doctor or coroner's report

so if he died around the 25th of September 1902, then his death could have just been registered before the 30th,

it is then 9 months until June 1903 .................... mothers have 6 weeks in which to register a birth.

so, if Freda was born in late June, but her birth not registered until July .......... it will appear in the September quarter i the GRO Index.


You HAVE to buy that birth certificate to find out!



However, I should warn you that a baby born to a married woman is automatically deemed to be the child of her husband even if that husband is dead ................... the longest gap that I have found between death of husband and birth of "his" child is 10 years!


It all depends on what the mother tells the Registrar ................... unless she specifically says "father unknown" or names another man, then the husband's name is put into the "Father" column.






May I please add that you would have helped us enormously, and saved some members wasting time, if you had said on your so-delayed return yesterday that you had all the information, and that what you wanted to know was Freda's father.

Well, you're correct to say that Isaac wasn't her father, but unless the mother owned up on the birth cert, you'll never know who the father was

Deaths Sep 1902 (>99%)
Bendall Isaac 69 Newmarket 3b 260

Births Sep 1903 (>99%)
Bendall Freda Ivy Erpingham 4b 82

I was browsing the boards, and I found this

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1338462

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hammond Square High Street Weybourne, Norfolk, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Wright Head Married Male 35 1876 Farm Labourer Norfolk Hempstead Image Transcription
Margaret Wright Wife Married Female 46 1865 - Berwick on Tweed Burnmouth Resident Image Transcription
Edward Bendale Stepson Single Male 20 1891 Farm Labourer Norfolk Weybourne Image Transcription
Freda Bendale Stepdaughter - Female 7 1904 - Norfolk Weybourne Image Transcription

Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)
BENDALL Margaret Erpingham 4b 207 Scan available - click to view
CRASKE Nellie Ann Erpingham 4b 207 Scan available - click to view
PIGOTT Arthur John Erpingham 4b 207 Scan available - click to view
Wright William Wallace Erpingham 4b 207

Where does Freda fit in?

Do you have any dates for her? And a surname would be useful

There doesn't seem to be a person of that name among the vast amount of info people found for you

Where and when did Margaret marry Mr Wright?

thanks to everyone, yes I found out this info, I jut need to try and find Freda's father it wasn't or could not be Bendall could it be William Wright Margaret Bendalls second husband>>>

1901 England Census

Name:James Mackrell

Age:76

Estimated birth year:abt 1825

Relation to Head:Head

Gender:Male

Spouse:Mary I Mackrell

Birth Place:Carlingford, Ireland

Civil Parish:Weybourne

Ecclesiastical parish:Weybourne

Town:Weybourne

County/Island:Norfolk

Registration district:Erpingham

Sub-registration district:Holt

ED, institution, or vessel:3

Piece:1827

Folio:44
Page Number:1

Household schedule number:6

Household Members:

James Mackrell 76
Mary I Mackrell 69
Charles Mackrell 32
Florence Mackrell 25

1851 England Census


Name:James Mackrell <<<Coast guard

Age:26

Estimated birth year:abt 1825

Relation:Head

Spouse's Name:Mary Jane Mackrell

Gender:Male

Where born:Not Known, Ireland

Civil Parish:Sidmouth
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:

County/Island:Devon

Registration district:Honiton

Sub-registration district:Ottery St Mary

ED, institution, or vessel:10b

Household schedule number:224

Piece:1864
Folio:396
Page Number:54

Household Members:

James Mackrell 26
Mary Jane Mackrell 22
Alexander Mackrell 1y

Mary's grandparents



1861 Scotland Census

Name:James Mackrell

Age:36

Estimated birth year:abt 1825

Relationship:Head

Spouse's name :Mary Jane Mackrell

Gender:Male

Where born:Ireland

Registration Number:727

Registration district:Ayton

Civil Parish:Ayton

County:Berwickshire

Address:Coast Guard Station

Occupation:Coast Guard Boatman

ED:7
Household schedule number:52

LINE:7
Roll:CSSCT1861_136

Household Members:


James Mackrell 36
Mary Jane Mackrell 29
Robert James Mackrell 9
Mary Jane Mackrell 7
William Henry Mackrell 3
Catherine Mackrell 1

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Marriages Sep 1849

Greer Mary Ann Honiton 10 199
Greer Mary Jane Honiton 10 199
Mackrell James Honiton 10 199

Seems she was born in Scotland. Here is Mary's mother with her parents



1881 England Census

Name:Margaret Mackrell

Age:16

Estimated birth year:abt 1865

Relationship to Head:Daughter

Father:James Mackrell <<Station Offr Coast Guard (SRN)

Mother:Mary Jane Mackrell

Gender:Female

Where born:Scotland

Civil Parish:Weybourne

County/Island:Norfolk

Occupation:Dressmaker

Registration district:Erpingham

Sub-registration district:Holt

ED, institution, or vessel:3

Piece:1926
Folio:52
Page Number:19

Household Members:

James Mackrell 58 <<Ireland
Mary Jane Mackrell 48 <<Ireland
Margaret Mackrell 16
Charles Mackrell 14
Edward Mackrell 10
Flora Mackrell 5




Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
about Margaret Mackrell

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Mary's mothers baptism which also gives you her grandparents names


Name:Margaret Mackrell

Gender:Female

Birth Date:7 Jun 1864

Birth Place:Ayton,Berwick,Scotland

Father:
James Mackrell

Mother:
Mary Jane Greer

FHL Film Number:6035516

Mary's parents marriage



Marriages Mar 1884

BENDALL Isaac William Erpingham 4b 127
Mackrell Margaret Erpingham 4b 127

Mary's mother Margaret gives her birth place as Bournemouth on the 1901 census but here she is listed as born in Scotland



1891 England Census

Name:Margaret Bendall

Age:26

Estimated birth year:abt 1865

Relation:Wife

Spouse's Name:Isaac W Bendall

Gender:Female

Where born:Scotland

Civil Parish:Salthouse

Ecclesiastical parish:Salthouse

Town:Salthouse

County/Island:Norfolk

Registration district:Erpingham

Sub-registration district:Holt

ED, institution, or vessel:12

Piece:1512
Folio:148
Page Number:6

Household Members:


Isaac W Bendall 34
Margaret Bendall 26
Thomas W Bendall 5
Edward E Bendall 3/12
Florence Mackrell 15