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I'm hoping mine will, I use Reunion for the Mac.

Martyn

I've got similar in my tree - first cousins had a child. The cousins parents were sisters. Its complicated putting it on the tree.

I've been mulling over all the information and I've come to the conclusion that the evidence points to Jane being the mother of Frederick George Lathwell. George(on the marriage certificate) being the father and they weren't married. The reason is I think they are first cousins! William Lathwell was Georges father and Sarah Lathwell was Janes Mother and they were brother and sister! Anyone heard of that before?

Martyn

Thanks for all your help. I would have never found the people I was looking for in the 1871 census. Satherick, Sathwill completely misread. When I read the actual sheet it is Lathwell, thanks again.

Martyn

Thanks Selena.

There are some very poor transcriptions.

It does say Frederick is 3 in 1891 but I assume this was copied incorrectly from the household schedule.

Rose

Rose, forgot to say very well done!

1881 Esther Lathwell
Age: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Female
Where born: Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Leighton Buzzard
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street address: Union Workhouse
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)

Occupation: Straw Plaiter

Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub registration district: Leighton Buzzard

1881:

Marriages Dec 1874
Evens William Leighton B. 3b 908
Lathwell Sarah Leighton B 3b 908


1881 England Census
about Jane Evens
Name: Jane Evens
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Leighton, Bedfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Leighton Buzzard
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: Englan
Street address: Sanders Lane Or Bedford St
Occupation: Straw Plaitter
Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub registration district: Leighton Buzzard
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Evens 51
Sarah Evens 43
Jane Evens 16
Arthur Evens 15
Sarah Evens 13
Willie Evens 6
David Evens 5
Joseph Evens

Rose

Jane and Sarah in 1871:


1871 England Census
about Jane Sathwill
Name: Jane Sathwill
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Leighton Buzzard
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street address:
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Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub registration district: Leighton Buzzard
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 96
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Satherick 76
Ester Satherick 70
Sarah Satherick 29
John Hack 16
Jane Sathwill 6
Sardham Sathwill 3

Rose

This looks to be them in 1891:


1891 England Census
about Jane Nead
Name: Jane Nead
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Leighton Buzzard, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Hendon
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: West Hendon
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Hendon
Sub registration district: Hendon
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Nead 27
Jane Nead 26
Frederich Nead 3
Jane Nead 1

Rose

Marriages Jun 1889
LATHMELL Jane Hendon 3a 223
READ Thomas Hendon 3a 223

Rose

1901 England Census
about Jane Read
Name: Jane Read
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thos
Gender: Female
Where born: Leighton Buzzard
Civil Parish: Kingsbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Kingsbury Holy Innocents
Town: Kingsbury
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Hendon
Sub registration district: Edgware
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 106
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Read 37
Jane Read 36
Fredk Geo Read 15
Wm Thos Read 9

Rose

Do you have Frederick in 1891 and 1901?

Rose

Witnesses on Frederick George Lathwells marriage certificate to Miriam Perkins

William Wetter
Constance Ellacott

The only thing that makes me a little bit unsure is the birth certificate with no father on it!

Who are the witnesses on Fred's marriage certificate - any family members?

Is this a possibility if they separated? Bit young perhaps?

Deaths Dec 1922
Lathwell Jane 52 Ampthill 3b 368

Yes Janice I have that.

1911 if you want to get credits to look at the infoHOUSEHOLD LATHWELL FREDERICK GEORGE M 1886 25 Hendon Middlesex
LATHWELL FREDERICK JAMES M 1911 2 MONTHS Hendon Middlesex
LATHWELL MIRIAM F 1887 24 Hendon Middlesex
LATHWELL MIRIAM ELIZABETH F 1909 2 Hendon Middlesex

Miriam Elizabeth Lathwell was my grandmother.

That was my thinking and I have all that in my tree. The mystery is the marriage(if it happened) and what happened to Jane. It could also be George Lathwell married Jane lathwell and that was her maiden name as well. There are a lot of Lathwells in Leighton Buzzard and Eggington(village 3 miles away).

1911 if you want to get credits to look at the infoHOUSEHOLD LATHWELL FREDERICK GEORGE M 1886 25 Hendon Middlesex
LATHWELL FREDERICK JAMES M 1911 2 MONTHS Hendon Middlesex
LATHWELL MIRIAM F 1887 24 Hendon Middlesex
LATHWELL MIRIAM ELIZABETH F 1909 2 Hendon Middlesex

List of Lathwell /Jane
LATHWELL ELIZABETH JANE F 1894 17 Camberwell London


LATHWELL JANE F 1861 50 Croydon Surrey


LATHWELL JANE F 1870 41 Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire

LATHWELL JANE ETHEL MARY F 1887 24 Belper Derbyshire


LATHWELL SRAH JANE F 1875 36 Leighton Buzzard Bedfordshire

Oops, sorry you probably have that. Maybe he popped back in 85 to see grandparents and met Jane?

Yes it does, B abt 1866 d abt 1902

It would fit if Jane Lathwell was her married name as well
Frederick George Lathwell b 1885 m 1907 George Lathwell deceased.