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16 Apr 2009 16:00 |
So, this is looking like William Goyns in 1891
1891 England Census about William S Goyns Name: William S Goyns Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Son Father's Name: Samuel Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Wingate, Durham, England Civil Parish: Wingate Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Wingate County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Easington Sub registration district: Easington ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Samuel Goyns 27 Mary A Goyns 24 William S Goyns 5 John H Goyns 3 and 1901
1901 England Census about William Goyns Name: William Goyns Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Son Father's Name: Samuel Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Wingate, Durham, England Civil Parish: Wingate Ecclesiastical parish: Wingate Grange Holy Trinity Town: Wingate County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Easington Sub registration district: Wingate ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 92 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Goyns 37 born Liskeard, Cornwall Mary Ann Goyns 34 William Goyns 15 John Goyns 13 Ernest Goyns 10 Herbert Goyns 6 Ethel Goyns 4 James Goyns 2 George Goyns 4 months Francis Shipley 49 So, Ethel, George and James were William's siblings. Whoever Thomas belonged to, he died in 1906
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Mar 1906 (>99%) Goyns Thomas 1 Easington 10a 270
I'm wondering if Samuel Goyns and the William Stephen Goyns that died in 1904 were brothers. Perhaps Samuel's son was named for his Uncle.
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16 Apr 2009 15:46 |
Mystery solved - there must have been two William Stephen Goyns!!
Deaths Dec 1904 (98%) Goyns William Stephen 31 Easington 10a 270
This will probably be the William S Goyns from the 1901 census I posted as the ages tally up - he was 28 in 1901.
Which is why Mary Katherine is on her own in 1911.
So, that's at least three Goyns families in that area in 1901.
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16 Apr 2009 15:35 |
1911 HOUSEHOLD GOYNS MARY KATHERINE F 1874 37 Easington Durham
HOUSEHOLD GOYNS ELIZA F 1898 13 Easington Durham HOUSEHOLD GOYNS GRACE F 1904 7 Easington Durham
cannot see a divorce on National Archives site for them?
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Laura
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16 Apr 2009 14:42 |
Oh my thats expensive. i will have to decide my priorities for 1911then before doing that!! I got so much to find out from other areas of tree too because unfortunatly i have nothing from about 1911 time to be able to go back. the searches continue. thanksfor your help
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CherryBlossom
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16 Apr 2009 14:24 |
Apologies Laura - I realised that I had made a mistake with Martha Catherine on the 1911. Went back and checked and Mary, Eliza and Grace are together in Easington in 1911 - Thomas probably isn't one of her children as there is another Goyns family in the area.
Credits for the 1911
£6.95 - 60 credits - £0.12 per credit £24.95 - 280 credits - £0.09 per credit £49.95 - 600 credits - £0.08 per credit
It costs 10 credits just to see the transcript and 30 credits to view the original page. So for £6.95 you could only view two original pages or 6 transcripts.
Ethel, James and George belonged to the other Goyns family so I have taken them off the list of births.
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Laura
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16 Apr 2009 14:14 |
that is so strange that catherine had thomas in lewisham but left grace and eliza aged only 13. can only presume that ethel, james, and george died. How much are credits? i have not used 1911 yet. thanks for the info
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CherryBlossom
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16 Apr 2009 14:06 |
According to the 1901 census William S Goyns was born in Bodmin, Cornwall.
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CherryBlossom
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16 Apr 2009 13:57 |
Eliza is still in Easington in 1911
HOUSEHOLD GOYNS ELIZA F 1898 13 Easington Durham
In the same house is a Grace Goyns and a Mary Goyns.
It might be worth buying credits and checking them out.
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CherryBlossom
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16 Apr 2009 13:52 |
Here's William in 1901
1901 England Census about Eliza Goynes Name: Eliza Goynes Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William S Mother's Name: Mary C Gender: Female Where born: Thornley, Durham, England Civil Parish: Wingate Ecclesiastical parish: Thornley St Bartholomew Town: Wheatley Hill County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Easington Sub registration district: Wingate ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 142 Household Members: Name Age William S Goynes 28 Mary C Goynes 27 Eliza Goynes 3 View Original Record
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Laura
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16 Apr 2009 13:51 |
thanks for that ninjalady, that is interesting about divorcing. so catherine and all chn should appear in 1911 census somewhere?
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CherryBlossom
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16 Apr 2009 13:47 |
This is interesting - looked for a death for his first wife.
Looks like he married Catherine M Knight but must have divorced her as she didn't die until 1934
Deaths Dec 1934 (93%) Goyns Catherine M 61 Durham 10a 364
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CherryBlossom
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16 Apr 2009 13:44 |
Possible children from his first marriage
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1897 (>99%) Goyns Eliza Easington 10a 447
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1903 (>99%) Goyns Grace Easington 10a 489
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Laura
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16 Apr 2009 13:40 |
very quick getting remarried. thats sad dies young few months after giving birth. you guys are so quick at this, thank you.
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Jacky
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16 Apr 2009 13:37 |
here is all 3 he was a busy man lol
Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GOYNS William Stephen Easington 10a 641 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Goyns William Stephen Easington 10a 879
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Marriages Mar 1920 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ellwood George Lacey Easington 10a 977 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goyns William S Paramor Easington 10a 977 Lacey Eliza Ellwood Easington 10a 977 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Paramor Margaret Goyns Easington 10a 977
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CherryBlossom
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16 Apr 2009 13:37 |
First marriage?
Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GOYNS William Stephen Easington 10a 641 Hall George William Easington 10a 641 Knight Catherine Mary Easington 10a 641 ROBINSON Margaret Ann Easington 10a 641
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CherryBlossom
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16 Apr 2009 13:36 |
Coo, he was quick getting re-married!
Marriages Mar 1920 (>99%) Goyns William S Paramor Easington 10a 977 Paramor Margaret Goyns Easington 10a 977
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Jacky
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16 Apr 2009 13:34 |
hi laura this looks like her death
Name: Mary A Goyns Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Year of Registration: 1919 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 32 District: Easington County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 769 (click to see others on
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CherryBlossom
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16 Apr 2009 13:34 |
Deaths March 1919
Mary A Goyns age 32 Easington 10a 769
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Laura
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16 Apr 2009 13:31 |
Thanks, i shall have to do that. Any ideas how i would find out her death record? Because i believe her husband William Goyns married 3 times in his life - Alice may have been the middle wife?! so i wondered whether they divorced or she passed away for him to remarry.
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Jacky
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16 Apr 2009 13:24 |
hi laura
i would suggest you get her marraige cert useing the ref we have given you to confirm who her father was that way you know you are going down the right track
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