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john alfred forres born 1909 county durham and lived there
married 2 times

dorothy unknown

and 2 nd wife

jessie kirkup born 1917 in county durham they lived in county durham all life

his 2 children born 1942 george william forrest sapposably

joan forrest 1945 surname at birth suposabl;y forrest as we cant find there births at all and we cant find

joh alfreds death he supposed to have died when his ship sank ware we dont know .....

we are more looking to find the marriges of his to his wifes as we cant find em i have looked on ancestry and freebmd nothing

any help would be great full

from dave using girlfriends account as we share it ..

and she does most of the work but she is stuck and so am i on this one

No births for Forrest with MMN Kirkup

Was Jessie married previously?

I'm assuming the man's surname is Forrest.....not Forres.

Please confirm........

no its forrest as its my mygranfather but my father knows very little of his step gran or his dads 1st wife just her name was dorothy

we have a birth for him


john alfred forest born 1909 darlington county durham

forrest sorry thats ment to say im a shockling typer hehehe ss

John's birth?

Births Jun 1909 (>99%)
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FORREST John Alfred Darlington 10a 9

jessie kirkup was born in 1917 in hamsterly and we dont know if she was married previously

Ricochet thats him we have him just not his marriges to the 2 women or his kids births they were born in darlington me dad dont even have his birth cert .. and hes no use no orniment hahahaha was my mum that told me most of this and she dosnt know alot as it wasnt talked about apart from that his dad had been married 2 times and jessie was the 2nd wife

my dada dint know his dads name as he died when he was about 10 had to order me grans as i know her death cert to find his name aswell

1911 census.....not the marriage, I know!

FORREST CHARLOTTE ANNE F 1863 48 Darlington Durham
FORREST LOTTIE F 1903 8 Darlington Durham
FORREST MARY ELLEN F 1887 24 Darlington Durham
FORREST ROBERT PARKER M 1891 20 Darlington Durham
FORREST ROBERT ROBINSON M 1862 49 Darlington Durham
FORREST JOHN ALFRED M 1909 2 Darlington Durham

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Name: George W Kirkup
Mother's Maiden Surname: Kirkup
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1943
Registration district: Durham S W
Registration county: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 402



Name: Joan Kirkup
Mother's Maiden Surname: Kirkup
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1944
Registration district: Darlington
Registration county: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 24

so what that means is Jessie was still a kirkup when she had them

not quite sure how you know WHEN she was born though

no wounder we couldnt find them hes always been forrest so now we know why we havent found birth the stigma of the time unmarried mother and children and we now dont even know if he was divorced from 1st wife omg pick me up of the floor hehehehe skeletons in closet

thanks all for the help

I've only posted what I could find......it may not actually be for the right people.

You'd need to get a birth cert, to verify the mother's first name............

we have her death cert and found her birth she was born 9th june 1917hamsterly co durham

we have her death cert and found her birth she was born 9th june 1917hamsterly co durham


thats the kids as there

called george william

and joan

we had them as being born as 1942 1945 as me dad sid 1942 43 and his sis was 1945 he though well you know us men we aint that clever some of us

Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
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Kirkup Jessie Marquis Auckland 10a 418

and on jessies death cert heshe is widow of john alfred forrest we found his birth straight awa\y as we knew he was born in darlington just didnt know his full name

thats why i orderd my nanas death cert to find that out as i knew it usaly tell you if shes a widow and who of

Ricochet thats jessies birth the one you found
kirkup we have that as sooon as we got her death cert i put it all in and it came up with her birth

its possible that john alfred forrest wasnt divorced from 1st wife whn kids were born now i just got to find 1st wifes and his marrigge grrrrrrrrr and jessies and his which we havent been abled to find at all

but thanks all you lot you have been great help

what was your dad's name?

we should be able to find his birth, and that should show his mother's maiden name.


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