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Patricia
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4 Jun 2009 16:44 |
born 1832 married to Elizabeth born 1837 (from Cleves, Germany). Looking for possible son Moses born 1852.? My g.grandfather & g.g. grandfather.
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Choccy
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4 Jun 2009 16:47 |
can we have a surname and an area?
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Patricia
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4 Jun 2009 16:50 |
His name was Moses Pacey. The area would be London (Soho) or Hampshire (alton)
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Sue C
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4 Jun 2009 16:54 |
1861? Right area, wrong name for wife, and no Moses jnr.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PACEY, Moses Head Married M 29 1832 ...To A Brewer Alton Hampshire PACEY, Phebe Wife Married F 29 1832 Alton Hampshire PACEY, Ann Daughter F 8 1853 St Giles Middlesex PACEY, Phoebe Daughter F 5 1856 St Giles Middlesex PACEY, Robert Son M 2 1859 St Giles Middlesex PACEY, Fanny Daughter F 0 (2M) 1861 St Giles Middlesex
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG09 Piece: 169 Folio: 114 Page: 1 Registration District: St Giles Sub District: 2 St Giles South EnumerationDistrict: 7 Ecclesiastical Parish: London Civil Parish: St Giles Municipal Borough: Address: 176, Drury Lane, St Giles, London County: London, Middlesex
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Sue C
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4 Jun 2009 17:00 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Jun 1868 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pacey Pheobe 39 St Giles 1b 323
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1869 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FORTESCUE Hannah Westminster, St. J. 1a 545 >>>>PACEY Moses Westminister St.J. 1a 545 >>>>Spiers Elizabeth Westminster St J 1a 545 Young William David St Geo Han Sq 1a 545
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Choccy
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4 Jun 2009 17:02 |
1881 England Census Name: Elizabeth Pacey Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Moses Gender: Female Where born: Clve, Germany Civil parish: St Martin in The Fields County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 19 Mercer St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Brewers Wife Registration district: Strand Sub-registration district: St Martin In The Fields ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Moses Pacey 43 Elizabeth Pacey 44 Henry Spicers 21 Charlie Spicers 15 Johanna Spicers 13 Francis Pacey 13 Mary Pacey 7 Mary Faulker 42 The Spicer children would seem to be children of Elizabeth's first marriage
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Sue C
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4 Jun 2009 17:03 |
His first marriage.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrews Eliza Alton 2c 263 >>>>Harress Phoebe Alton 2c 263 >>>>Pacey Moses Alton 2c 263 SMITH George Alton 2c 263
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Choccy
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4 Jun 2009 17:05 |
not the right area though
Births Mar 1853 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pacey Moses Lincoln 7a 442
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Patricia
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20 Dec 2010 17:17 |
Choccy, I am looking for the children of Moses Pacey b.1831 E. Worldham, Hampshire & Phoebe Harress b. 1829 m.1852.first marriage. I think they may have moved to Lincolnshire but am confused as I thought they were :- Ann, Phoebe,William, Miriam & Thomas and possibly another Moses, however, I have been given some different names by another researcher :- Ann, Phoebe, Robert, Mary, Fanny, Ruth & Francis. Thank you for your previous input (4/6/2009) and if you have time, would you be kind enough to help me again. Thank you, Pat
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MargaretM
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20 Dec 2010 17:41 |
This is the only one on BVRI:
PACEY, Ann Elizabeth Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 20 Mar 1853 Recorded in: East Worldham, Hampshire, England Father: Moses PACEY Mother: Phobe Source: FHL Film 1041225 Dates: 1851 - 1876
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MargaretM
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20 Dec 2010 17:53 |
1861 census 176 Drury Lane, St. Giles, Finsbury, London Moses Pacey, head, 29, servant to a brewer, born Hampshire, Alton Phebe, wife, 29, born " Ann, dau, 8, born " Phebe, dau, 5, born Middlesex, St. Giles Robert, son, 2, born " Fanny, dau, 2 months, born "
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MargaretM
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20 Dec 2010 18:03 |
1871 census 19 Letchfield St., St. Ann, Westminster Moses Pacey, head, 39, labourer, born Hants, Alton Elizabeth, wife, 24, born Germany Henry, son, 11, born Middlesex, St. Ann Charles, son, 5, born " Frank?, son, 3, born " Helener?, dau, 2, born " Henry Milder?, boarder, 3, born "
There's another Moses on the 71 census. he was aged 20, born Bardney, Lincolnshire, a police constable in Caistor.
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MargaretM
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20 Dec 2010 18:15 |
I would say this is Moses the police constable: 1861 census Marsh Rd. to Sea, North Somercotes, Lincolnshire William Pacey, head, 38, engine driver, born Bardney, Lincs Elizabeth, wife, 40, born " ***Moses, son, 8, born ' Aron, son, 6, born " Paul, son, 3, born Burbrook, Lincs Betsy, dau, 5 month, born Nth. Somercotes
I would think that this Moses is your gt. grandfather and he was a son of William not Moses.
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MargaretM
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20 Dec 2010 18:35 |
This is the only birth of a Moses Pacey on FreeBMD:
Births Mar 1853 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PACEY Moses Lincoln 7a 442
And possible marriage of his parents:
Marriages Jun 1845 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norris Elizabeth Lincoln 14 767 Pacey William Lincoln 14 767
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Patricia
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20 Dec 2010 20:33 |
Margaret, did you get my reply ? ... if not maybe I should have clicked 'Post' anyway in case you did'nt, (I have the marriage certificate of Moses & Elizabeth (2nd marriage) - I think my info. was wrong on the Lincolnshire area and am now double checking the children of the first marriage. Thank you for your help, kind regards Pat
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MargaretM
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20 Dec 2010 21:31 |
No, I didn't get your reply, Patricia. I'm a little confused. Do you know that your gt. grandfather Moses was the son of Moses? Do you have his birth certificate? As I said the only one on FreeBMD is the one in Lincoln.
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Patricia
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20 Dec 2010 22:12 |
thanks for your research but Moses b.1831 my gt. Grandfather has William b.1792 as his father. I was hoping to find that Moses senior had a son also called Moses but I now think that the Moses from Lincs. is not him. I also can't find another. Regards Pat
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JaneyCanuck
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20 Dec 2010 22:19 |
Well, I'm finding this quite confusing.
Patricia, can you tell us how you know Moses 1831 was your gr-grfather?
You're not being forthcoming enough with facts for people to help. Nobody likes going off chasing red herrings and then prying the info out in bits and pieces.
Who was the child of Moses 1831 who was your ancestor, for starters?
Or really, I guess, if it's Moses c1852 who was your ancestor, who was his child who was your ancestor?
You say:
"thanks for your research but Moses b.1831 my gt. Grandfather has William b.1792 as his father."
He has him as his father on his marriage certificate? How do you know William's year of birth?
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MargaretM
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20 Dec 2010 22:39 |
But Patricia, this is your original post saying that your gt. grandfather was born 1852:
Moses Pacey born 1832 married to Elizabeth born 1837 (from Cleves, Germany). Looking for possible son Moses born 1852.? My g.grandfather & g.g. grandfather.
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JaneyCanuck
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20 Dec 2010 22:41 |
Five hours ago, you said:
"I am looking for the children of Moses Pacey b.1831 E. Worldham, Hampshire & Phoebe Harress b. 1829 m.1852.first marriage."
Well, Sue C posted them on 4 June 2009, surely:
PACEY, Moses Head Married M 29 1832 Alton Hampshire PACEY, Phebe Wife Married F 29 1832 Alton Hampshire PACEY, Ann Daughter F 8 1853 St Giles Middlesex PACEY, Phoebe Daughter F 5 1856 St Giles Middlesex PACEY, Robert Son M 2 1859 St Giles Middlesex PACEY, Fanny Daughter F 0 (2M) 1861 St Giles Middlesex
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