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Looks like the Mary Ann Wilkinson marriage which Andy found will be the one?

This is a good bet for Mary Ann on 1861? :

1861 England Census
about Mary Ann Wilkinson
Name: Mary Ann Wilkinson
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Chadderton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Tonge
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: Bradshawfold ???


Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Chadderton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members: Name Age
John Wilkinson 54
Sarah Wilkinson 56
Betty Wilkinson 22
John Wilkinson 20
Rachael Wilkinson 17
Sarah Wilkinson 15
Mary Ann Wilkinson 12
Eliza Wilkinson 7
Sarah Greenhalgh 24
Elizabeth Greenhalgh 21


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3025; Folio: 11; Page: 15; GSU roll: 543066.

Dea x

Births Sep 1868 (>99%)
TAYLOR John William Oldham 8d 576

Births Mar 1870 (>99%)
TAYLOR Eliza Ann Oldham 8d 638

To determine which John William we need in the GRO index, we have to look at other people on the page.


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
TAYLOR John William Chadderton Oldham WILKINSON CHAD/24/233
TAYLOR John William Crompton Oldham TAYLOR CR/15/261
TAYLOR John William Oldham Above Town Oldham RHODES OAT/62/476
TAYLOR Annie Laura Chadderton Oldham JEVONS CHAD/24/229
TAYLOR George Thomas Oldham Above Town Oldham NEWTON OAT/62/475
KERSHAW Edmund Crompton Oldham HILTON CR/15/265

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1870
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
TAYLOR Eliza Ann Chadderton Oldham WILKINSON CHAD/26/226

Yours looks a better match than mine Andy !!

Tracey x

How about this for 1871 - the children are correct

John J Taylor
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Chadderton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Chadderton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31a
Household Members:
Name Age
John J Taylor 25 Powerloom overlooker (and the middle initial is Y
Mary A Taylor 22 b Chadderton as are the children
John Wm Taylor 2
Eliza Ann Taylor 1

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4105; Folio: 76; Page: 6; GSU roll: 846709.

marriage

John Yates Taylor/ Mary Ann Wilkinson
1867 Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 918

According to Lancs BMD they were married at St Matthew's Chadderton

Andy

I wonder if one of these infant deaths is related to Mary Ann dying?

Deaths Sep 1871 (>99%)
Taylor Mary Ann 2 Haslingden 8e 76

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Deaths Sep 1872 (>99%) 99%)
Taylor Mary Ann 1 Haslingden 8e 108

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Deaths Mar 1872 (>99%)
TAYLOR Mary Ann 34 Haslingden 8e 124

1871 census transcription details for: Brook Street, New Accrington, Accrington

RG number: RG10 Piece: 4145 Folio: 18 Page: 29


Reg. District: Haslingden
Sub District: Accrington
Enum. District: 18
Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: New Accrington
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Brook Street, New Accrington, Accrington
County: Lancashire

TAYLOR, Yates Head M 23 1848 Lancashire
TAYLOR, Mary Ann Wife F 23 1848 Norfolk
TAYLOR, Robert Son M 2 1869 Lancashire
TAYLOR, Margaret Elizabeth Daughter F 0 1871 Lancashire

Tracey !!

It's certainly 'dayjar summat !!' - it was you who got me on to this one - I amsupposed to be cooking Dinner!

SO..... - Yates Taylor married Jane Eccles and then his son John William ALSO married a Jane Eccles??????? - Lets hope they are cousins of some sort and not actually the same person!

Dea x

Dea,

I know you like a challenge.... race you to the 1871 lol...

T xx

Well thanks to everyone searching ...now I know where the Mary Ann Brunton on my original paper , 20 years ago, tree is there for ..
Clara's mother !!
Sister of our Eliza Ann Taylor & yes right marriage for Eliza and James Duerden too.
Kind regs to all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Catherine

You think this could be the marriage?

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1868
TAYLOR Yates BRUNTON Mary Ann Church, St James Church Kirk Preston SJCK/4/22


Tracey x

With there being 20 years between them... sure it's not a son and father living there?

Tracey x

Well, it looks like his first wife was 'Mary Ann' ??

Baptisms: 1 Feb 1891 Immanuel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Clara Taylor - Dau of Yates Taylor & Mary Ann
Born: 17 Jul 187?
Abode: Pack Horse Inn Belthorn
Occupation: Innkeeper
Baptised by: Wm Fairclough curate
Register: Baptisms 1890 - 1898, Page 461
Source: LDS Film 1470816

Baptisms: 7 Jun 1891 Immanuel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Albert Edward Taylor - Son of Yates Taylor & Jane
Born: 24 Apr 1891
Abode: Pack Horse Inn Belthorn
Occupation: Innkeeper
Baptised by: Wm Fairclough curate
Register: Baptisms 1890 - 1898, Page 468
Source: LDS Film 1470816

So we still need to find a relevant Yates on the 1871 census...

Dea, is this déja vue?


Tracey ;-)

According to Lancs OPC site,

The Yates who married Alice Shuttleworth had a father named Michael so this is not the one then?

Marriage: 26 Feb 1871 Immanuel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Yates Taylor - (X), 24 Collier bachelor of Badge Row
Alice Shuttleworth - 23 spinster of Moscow Row
Groom's Father: Michael Taylor
Bride's Father: John Shuttleworth, Joiner
Witness: Dixon Grimshaw; Frances Cooke
Married by certificate by: Boulby Haslewood
Register: Marriages 1865 - 1877, Page 95, Entry 190
Source: LDS Film 1470816

Dea x

Another marriage for you...

Marriage: 26 Dec 1891 Immanuel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
James Duerden - 22 Weaver bachelor of Mouse House Farm
Eliza Anne Taylor - 21 spinster of Lower Darwen, Pack House
Groom's Father: James Duerden
Bride's Father: Yates Taylor, Publican
Witness: John Cook; Mary Ann Mellor
Married by banns by: Boulby Haslewood Vicar
Register: Marriages 1887 - 1898, Page 91, Entry 182
Source: LDS Film 1470816

T xx

Ok how about i throw this one in....

Marriage: 20 Jun 1891 Immanuel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
John William Taylor - 22 Weaver bachelor of Park House
Jane Eccles - 21 spinster of 25 Rhan
Groom's Father: Yates Taylor
Bride's Father: Richard Henry Eccles, Collier
Witness: John James Haworth; Margaret Eccles
Married by banns by: Boulby Haslewood Vicar
Register: Marriages 1887 - 1898, Page 77, Entry 154
Source: LDS Film 1470816


Look at the name of the Bride and the name of the Groom's father !!!!

LOL....oh thats made me smile!!!


Tracey x

Thanks all,for loads of info ,I think Alice not 1st wife ( although getting more confused by the minute !!! )

For definite Yates Taylor and Jane Eccles parents of gt grandma Eliza Ann Taylor bc1870 = James Duerden 26/12/1891.
Living at Pack Horse Inn at time of marriage.Father Publican at that time.
Sisters Clara, Alice, Hannah J , brothers Yates,Albert ,& Henery E Yates.
Catherine x

William and Isabella marriage??

Interestingly her maiden name is Yates!

Marriage: 19 Jan 1835 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
William Taylor - smith widower of this Parish
Isabella Yates - (X), spinster of this Parish
Witness: John Astley; James Neville
Married by Banns by: Richard Burnet
Register: Marriages 1831 - 1835, Page 555
Source: LDS Film 1278808


Tracey x

I don't think the Yates Taylor with an Alice is yours, this is their children....He's a Collier and your is an Overlooker...

Baptisms: 15 Aug 1875 Immanuel, Owaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Scarlet Taylor - Daughter of Yates Taylor & Alice
Born: 10 Jul 1875
Abode: Busk
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Boulby Haslewood Incubmant
Register: Baptisms 1866 - 1880, Page 166, Entry 2367
Source: LDS Film 1470816-7-5

Baptisms: 14 Oct 1877 Immanuel, Owaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Margaret Ellen Taylor - Daughter of Yates Taylor & Alice
Born: 4 Sep 1877
Abode: Badge Brow
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Thos. J.Morgan curate
Register: Baptisms 1866 - 1880, Page 206, Entry 2761
Source: LDS Film 1470816-7-5

Baptisms: 23 Jul 1879 Immanuel, Owaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Anne Taylor - Dau of Yates Taylor & Alice
Born: 8 May 1879
Abode: Badge Brow
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Thos J Morgan curate
Register: Baptisms 1866 - 1880, Page 242, Entry 3068
Source: LDS Film 1470816-7-5


....it has to be said Yates Taylor is a very very popular name up there in Lancashire, there's loads of data for Yates Taylors going back to the 1700's !!


Tracey x

Possible death for Alice ??

Name: Alice Taylor
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 32
District: Blackburn
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 262 (click to see others on page)

Linda