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Might be worth checking this one out:

Births Sep 1886
Parker Frederick Robert Marylebone 1a 527

- is that the one you have? Are the parents Alfred and Eliza perchance?


My grandfather's mum died when he was 10. Until he retired, he thought he was a year older than he was (born 1901, not 1900), and had his name completely screwed up; it wasn't at all what he'd gone by all his life. Only found out the facts when he retired and had to get his birth cert. When your mum was gone, in those days, you might have got confused. ;)

Ah, okay, I hadn't clicked on all the Freds at CWGC, and didn't try that one because of it being Durham.

"Son of Alfred Parker of 101 Granville Rd Kilburn
Husband of late Amy Parker"

- she was "late" at the time the memorial was written, of course.

I get about the Parkers -- just want to be absolutely sure it's the right Fred Parker in 1911 so we don't go barking up the wrong tree for Amy!

What you have does sound perfectly credible -- the Amy Parker you're looking at.

What do both that Amy and Frederick say for number of children?

Does that Amy report married?

Do you have Amy's death cert?

This was the only likely record I saw, based on age -- yes, son John was born in Willesden, so this will be her:

Deaths Dec 1918
Parker Amy 34 Willesden 3a 666

Who was the informant of death?

Thank you so much for trying to help with all this.

Amy Parker in 1911 census says 2 children (she had Dorothy 1909 and Rosina was on the way!)

Frederick in 1911 says 0 children but interestingly his father Alfred says 3 children born alive 2 still living and 1 who died which brings me back to the Frederick Robert v Frederick John.

Janey I do ! How do you do this so quickly????It took me forever.

Amy Parker died 19th november 1918 at 17 Percy Rd where my father and his brother Gilbert had been born.She was buried in a paupers grave at Willesden Green Cemetry Cause of death : Influenza and Broncho- Pneumonia.
Alfred Parker father-in -law present at the death and also of same address

Hmm, I'd be as likely to think there were just name muddles, rather than two sons named Frederick.


I'd guess this is the sequence:

Marriages Dec 1884
Brown George Samuel Marylebone 1a 989
> PARKER Alfred Marylebone 1a 989
Ryall Eunice Butt Marylebone 1a 989
> THORN Eliza Marylebone 1a 989

Births Jun 1885
Parker Alfred John Marylebone 1a 592

Births Sep 1886
Parker Frederick Robert Marylebone 1a 527

with another child born later who didn't survive to the 1891 census, or born after the 1891 and didn't survive to the 1901.

Then this death matches with mother Eliza's age (28+8) in 1891:

Deaths Jun 1899
Parker Eliza 36 Marylebone 1a 393


Query again -- you have a birth cert for a Frederick Robert Parker? If so, who are the parents?

If not, I'd get the one above in this post, and check whether the mother is Eliza Thorn. If so, I'd think he's your man.

I'd get the Alfred John certificate too, since he's pretty definitely the one in the 1911 I'd think, to verify that Alfred Parker and Eliza Thorn are the right couple.

Then you'd be pretty sure that Frederick John Parker who married Amy was really Frederick Robert and just didn't know his own middle name. Really not that unusual!

How do I do it so quickly???

Well, long practice, for one thing.

But having the fruits of all your labours to start with would be the main factor, I think. ;)