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Tracing Mary Fryer 1842 of Sedgley and siblings

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Anthony

Anthony Report 7 Jul 2009 14:47

Can you give the full 1851 census listing of this Ellis family, please?
It may not be significant but Mary was noted as a domestic servant on the marriage certificate

Thelma

Thelma Report 7 Jul 2009 14:48

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Martha Fryer
Name: Martha Fryer
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 5 Nov 1820
Christening Place: Sedgley, Staffordshire, England
Father's Name: Thomas Fryer
Mother's Name: Hannah

Thelma

Thelma Report 7 Jul 2009 14:51

Sorry,not with you.I have given you Mary in 1861/1871 as a servant
1851
William Ellis abt 1819 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Head Sedgley, Staffordshire
Martha Ellis abt 1820 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Wife Sedgley, Staffordshire
Mary Ellis abt 1843 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Sedgley, Staffordshire
Ann Ellis abt 1848 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Sedgley, Staffordshire
Rachel Ellis abt 1848 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Sedgley, Staffordshire
John Ellis abt 1850 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Son Sedgley, Staffordshire

Joan

Joan Report 7 Jul 2009 15:09

Is this Lewis' birth?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Lewis Perry
Name: Lewis Perry
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Stone
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 27

Anthony

Anthony Report 7 Jul 2009 15:11

I had to understand how to read that list -- sorry!

It makes some kind of sense now. Some time ago, it was suggested to me that there was perhaps something strange about Mary's birth (the lack of her parents' names), that she was camouflaging marriage details. I was puzzled that I could only find Martha Jr. in any records.
Mary converted to the RC faith at some point, and the RC church pointed out that the IGI record baptismal name might be incorrect. Also that if her mother had married later on she would assume the surname of her adopted father but use her original birth surname at her own marriage (also suggested by this panel), but the details of birth place at least would be correct. But finding a Mary fulfilling all this has not been so easy.

Joan

Joan Report 7 Jul 2009 15:11

For the record, here's the family in 1891

1891 England Census
about Louis Perry
Name: Louis Perry
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Stone, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Stone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Stone
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stone
Sub-registration district: Stone
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Perry 49
Mary Perry 46
Louis Perry 12
Anne Ellen Perry 10



Anthony

Anthony Report 7 Jul 2009 15:14

Yes, that is Lewis. His father seems to have variously called him Louis also. Don't know why. Tracking his RC birth cert was made more interesting in that it is in Latin where he was called Ludovicus.