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HELEN WHITE OR WHYTE

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Judith

Judith Report 17 Jul 2009 23:58

I AM TRYING TO FIND ANY INFO. I CAN ON HELEN ALSO KNOWN AS NELLIE. HER MOTHER WAS ELIZA HARRIET WHITE. HELEN WAS BORN IN 1874 . I THINK IN GLOUSTERSHIRE U.K. AT SOME TIME SHE MOVED TO AUSTRALIA WHERE SHE MARRIED HERBERT BAILEY. IN 1895. I BELIEVE THERE IS SOME CONNECTION TO THE NAME JEYNES ALSO FROM GLOUSTERSHIRE.

Noela

Noela Report 20 Jul 2009 08:41

Hi Judith,

Found a marriage in Queensland, Australia. Herbert William Bailey married Helen Whyte Janyes in 1895. Ref. 1895/C265.

Noela

Noela

Noela Report 20 Jul 2009 08:41

Hi Judith,

Found a marriage in Queensland, Australia. Herbert William Bailey married Helen Whyte Janyes in 1895. Ref. 1895/C265.

Noela

Judith

Judith Report 20 Jul 2009 12:35

THANK YOU NOELA MUCH APPRECIATED
JUDITH

Judith

Judith Report 20 Jul 2009 12:37

THANK YOU PETER THIS MAY BE THE VERIFICATION I NEED
JUDITH

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 21 Jul 2009 04:11

The family of the couple that Peter found...

1871 England Census about William Jeynes
Name: William Jeynes
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza H
Gender: Male
Where born: Longdon, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Castle Morton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gregory
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address: New House
Occupation: Collector of Poor rates etc.

Registration district: Upton On Severn
Sub-registration district: Upton on Severn
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
William Jeynes 33
Eliza H Jeynes 30 .. b. Ashton Under Hill, Gloucestershire
Tom Jeynes 8 ... scholar .. b. Berrow, Worcestershire,
Frank W Jeynes 5 .. b. Castle Morton, Worcestershire
George Jeynes 2 .. b. Castle Morton, Worcestershire
Christopher Jeynes 4 months .. b. Castle Morton, Worcestershire

Judith

Judith Report 21 Jul 2009 04:31

THANK YOU SO MUCH JULIE.. THIS TAKES ME A LOT FURTHER WITH MY RESEARCH. WAS THERE ANOTHER CENSUS SHOWING HELEN BEING BORN TO THIS FAMILY.. SHE IS MY G/GRANDMOTHER AND I JUST GET SO NEAR AND THEN ITS LIKE SHE NEVER EXISTED.. ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU
REGARDS JUDY

Charlotte

Charlotte Report 21 Jul 2009 05:42

The family left for Australia before the next census. I have found them in a Queensland Index to ship lists 1846-1912 as follows. Helen is Ellen here. You could even thing of this as a census as their ages are given.

JEYNES Annie 11 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698
JEYNES Christopher 4 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698
JEYNES Eliza 34 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698
JEYNES Ellen 2 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698
JEYNES Emily Inf St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698
JEYNES George 6 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698
JEYNES Tom 13 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698
JEYNES William 37 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698

St. James is the name of the ship. This page is http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/downloads/Indexes/immigration/Jennings_grace-Jones_Alf.pdf

Frank is missing and wonder who Annie is, maybe she was with someone else in 1871.

Good luck,

Charlotte

Judith

Judith Report 21 Jul 2009 05:56

THANKS CHARLOTTE THIS IS GREAT . I HAVE SINCE FOUND IN A CENSUS THAT FRANK WAS WITH HIS G/[PARENTS . WILL WORK ON ANNIE BUT THIS IS WHAT I WANTED AS I HAVE RECORDS OF THE FAMILY HERE IN AUSTRALIA.. I REMEMBER A LOT FROM MY G/MOTHER BEFORE SHE DIED BUT JUST COULDNT CLARIFY . THANKS AGAIN
JUDY

Charlotte

Charlotte Report 21 Jul 2009 06:36

Judith,

I did read your note before sending this but thought there might be some here you didn't know.

While digging around for Vital Records in Queensland found Helen's mother in the list of those who applied for a pension in 1908-1909. In case you needed more proof that this is the right family.

JEYNES Eliza Harriett

no listing for her husband. this is found on http://www.judywebster.gil.com.au/oap-ij.html

Indexes to BMD records thru 1914 (historical period)
I saw deaths for two brothers, marriages for several siblings, births of a lot of neices and nephews and another child of William and Eliza Harriett

Look here: https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/BirIndexQry.m

Have fun,

Charlotte

Judith

Judith Report 21 Jul 2009 07:17

CHARLOTTE , I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SUSPICIOUS THAT THE PARENTS DIDNT STAY TOGETHER AS HELEN OR ELLEN WAS CALLED WHIYE JEYNES AND THE REST JUST JEYNES. I HAVE BEEN INTO OTHER FAMILY TREES AND SHE WAS NEVER THERE.. I KNOW SHE HAD THOSE SIBLINGS AS I HAVE A B/DAY BOOK GIVEN TO ME BY MY G/MOTHER AND ALL NAMES ARE LISTED BUT NOT BIG ON DETAILS.. I WAS DETERMINED TO FIND SOME TRACE AND YOU HAVE CERTAINLY HELPED A LOT. THANK YOU
JUDY

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 22 Jul 2009 07:10

You probably have this info, but I have added it for easy access to names for the AER records (to follow)

Birth …1879/C988 Jeynes Charles William Eliza Harriet White

Marriage …????? Can not find a marriage for this couple so it is only a guess that he is ‘your’ Christopher
Children…
1893/C1244 Jeynes Ruth Esther Christopher Annie Mary Fredericka Entenmann
married .. 1916/C3074 RICHARDS George
1895/C1397 Jeynes Stanley William Christopher Annie Mary Frederica Entenmann
1897/C1290 Jeynes Wilfred Christopher Annie Mary Fredrica Entenmann … died .. 1897/C576
1898/C1388 Jeynes Christopher Alan Christopher Annie Mary Frederica Entenmann
married .. 1918/C377 DOWSE Ada Harriet
1901/C5160 Jeynes Edwin Oliver Christopher Mary Annie Frederica Entenmann
married .. 1923/C3035 PHEBEY Esther Emma Caroline
1904/C5086 Jeynes James Keppel Christopher Annie Mary Frederica Entenmann
1907/C5174 Jeynes Norneen Sybil Christopher Annie Mary Frederica Entenmann
1909/C3868 Jeynes Ellen Dorothy Christopher Annie Mary Fredericke Entenmann
1911/C6271 Jeynes Charles Cyril Christopher Annie Mary Fredericka Entenmann
1914/C6536 Jeynes George Leister Christopher Annie Mary Friedricka Entenmann

Did 'your' Frank immigrate at a later time than his parents...??

Marriage … 1895/C275 Jones Jessie Jeynes Frank William Fisher ..
Children …
1900/C7952 Jeynes Walter William Winton Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones .. died .. 1926/C1914
married.. 1926/C1462 TURLEY Esther Jane
1901/C1117 Jeynes Frank Edgar Alfred Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones
1904/C952 Jeynes Jessie Marjorie Elizabeth Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones
married .. 1925/B36810 PRESSEY Fred
1905/C942 Jeynes Kathleen May Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones
1907/C1095 Jeynes Annie Winifred Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones
1909/C1372 Jeynes Ina Maude Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones
married.. 1929/C46 HENRY Arthur Allan
1912/C1214 Jeynes Arthur Stevens Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones
1912/C1215 Jeynes George Harold Morton Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones
1913/C1357 Jeynes Joseph Claud Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones .. died .. 1914/C429

Marriage … 1884/C563 Jeynes Tom WALL Margaret .. Tom died .. 1891/C521
Children …
1886/C1973 Jeynes Thomas Tom Margaret Wall .. died .. 1886/C1157
1888/C993 Jeynes Dorothy Eliza Tom Margaret Wall
married .. 1910/C336 GORDON Hubert Eaton
1912/C1299 Gordon Colin Carlyle
1914/C1344 Gordon Hubert Roy
1890/C1193 Jeynes Annie Lucilla Tom Margaret Wall
married .. 1913/C298 COLLINS John

deaths…
1885/C1370 Jeynes William Thomas Jeynes Harriet Hill
1923/C4444 Jeynes Eliza Harriett Thomas White Lucilla Stephens
their son…
1906/C359 Jeynes George William Jeynes Eliza Harriet White

Marriages….
1889/C215 Jeynes Annie Mary – HAMPSON Frederick Alphons
children…
1890/C1187 Hampson Eileen Margaret Alphonos Annie Mary Jeynes
1893/C1239 Hampson Frank Leslie Frederick Alphonse Annie Mary Jeynes
1897/C1190 Hampson Cora Phyllis Frederick Alphonso Annie Mary Jeynes
1897/C1191 Hampson Colin Percy Frederick Alphonso Annie Mary Jeynes
1901/C1041 Hampson Sheila Kathleen Frederick Alphonso Annie Mary Jeynes
1901/C1042 Hampson Frederick Ralph Frederick Alphonso Annie Mary Jeynes.

Marriage...
1903/C190 Jeynes Emily Rowe Pownall William Thomas
children...
1904/C1113 Pownall Thomas Norman William Thomas Emily Rowe Jeynes
1906/C1088 Pownall Dulcie Lucilla William Thomas Emily Rowe Jeynes
1910/C1461 Pownall Raymond Alphonso William Thomas Emily Rowe Jeynes .. died .. 1924/C422
1913/C9709 Pownall Geoffrey William William Thomas Emily Rowe Jeynes

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 22 Jul 2009 07:34

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Eliza Harriet Jeynes
Name: Eliza Harriet Jeynes
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1903 <<<< & 1905 <<
State: Queensland
District: Wide Bay
Subdistrict: Nanango
OCCUPATION .. Indepandant Means
ADDRESS .. Fitzroy St
also on list ..
George, Stockman
@ Nanango

Name: Eliza Harriett Jeynes
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1913 <<<<
State: Queensland
District: Wide Bay
Subdistrict: Nanango
OCCUPATION .. ---
ADDRESS .. Nanango

Name: Eliza Harriett Jeynes
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1919 <<<<
State: Queensland
District: Wide Bay
Subdistrict: Nanango
OCCUPATION .. home duties (h/d)
ADDRESS .. Nanango

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 22 Jul 2009 08:08

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Christopher Jeynes
Name: Christopher Jeynes
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1903 <<<<& 1905 <<<
State: Queensland
District: Wide Bay
Subdistrict: Gympie
OCCUPATION .. Horse Breaker
ADDRESS .. Pine Street
with Mary Annie Frederica, h/d

Name: Christopher Jeynes
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1913 <<<<<
State: Queensland
District: Moreton
Subdistrict: Ipswich
OCCUPATION .. Horse Trainer
ADDRESS .. Edward St., Booval
with Mary Annie Frederica, h/d

Name: Christopher Jeynes
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1919 <<<<
State: Queensland
District: Moreton
Subdistrict: Ipswich
OCCUPATION .. Horse Trainer
ADDRESS .. Raceview., Booval
with Mary Annie Frederica, h/d
& William Stanley, Coalminer

Name: Christopher Jeynes
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1925 <<<<
State: Queensland
District: Wide Bay
Subdistrict: Gympie
OCCUPATION .. Labourer
ADDRESS .. Alice Street
with Mary Annie Frederica, h/d

Name: Christopher Jeynes
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936 <<<<
State: Queensland
District: Wide Bay
Subdistrict: Kilkivan
OCCUPATION .. Labourer
ADDRESS .. Glastonbury
with Mary Annie Frederica, h/d
also...
@ Teresa Vale Glastonburt
Charles Cyril, Dairyman
& @ Upper Glastonbury, via Gympie
William Stanley, Timber Cutter.


Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Alan Christopher Jeynes
Name: Alan Christopher Jeynes
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1925 <<<<<
State: Queensland
District: Moreton
Subdistrict: Rosewood
OCCUPATION .. Farmer
ADDRESS .. Ebenezer
with Ada Harriett, h/d

Name: Ada Harriett Jeynes
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1919 <<<<
State: Queensland
District: Moreton
Subdistrict: Ipswich
OCCUPATION .. h/d
ADDRESS .. Edward St., Booval

Name: Ada Harriett Jeynes
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1936 <<<<
State: Queensland
District: Moreton
Subdistrict: Ipswich
OCCUPATION .. h/d
ADDRESS .. Dudleigh St., Booval

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 22 Jul 2009 08:29

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Edwin Oliver Jeynes
Name: Edwin Oliver Jeynes
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1925 <<< & 1936 <<<
State: Queensland
District: Moreton
Subdistrict: Goodna
OCCUPATION .. Miner
ADDRESS .. Phebey's, Raceview, Ipswich
with Esther Emma Caroline h/d

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Ruth Esther Richards
Name: Ruth Esther Richards
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1919 <<<<& 1925 <<< & 1936
State: Queensland
District: Moreton
Subdistrict: Ipswich
OCCUPATION .. h/d
ADDRESS .. Kitchener St.
with George, Mine Manager

Can not find anything on other children

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 22 Jul 2009 10:40

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Frank William Jeynes
Name: Frank William Jeynes
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1903 <<<< & 1905 <<<<
State: Queensland
District: Wide Bay
Subdistrict: Gayndah
OCCUPATION .. Mail Contractor
ADDRESS .. Capper St
With Jessie, h/d

Name: Frank William Jeynes
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1913 <<<& 1919 <<<<
State: Queensland
District: Wide Bay
Subdistrict: Eidsvold
OCCUPATION .. Scalper
ADDRESS .. Golden Spur St., Eidsvold
With Jessie, h/d

Name: Frank William Jeynes
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1925 <<<<& 1930
State: Queensland
District: Capricornia
Subdistrict: Eidsvold
OCCUPATION .. Scalper
ADDRESS .. Golden Spur St., Eidsvold
With Jessie, h/d
also @ Mt Rose St,
Frank Edgar Alfred, Stockman
& ??
Charles Pitt, Mahoon, Cania, Labourer ??

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Frank Edgar Alfred Jeynes
Name: Frank Edgar Alfred Jeynes
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936 <<<<
State: Queensland
District: Capricornia
Subdistrict: Eidsvold
OCCUPATION .. Stockman
ADDRESS .. Monto, Upper Burnett
with Jessie (mother), h/d
also @ Monto...( siblings)
Adelaide Ruby, h/d
Arthur Steven, labourer
& George Harold, Farmer

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 22 Jul 2009 10:48

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Walter William Winton Jeynes
Name: Walter William Winton Jeynes
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1925
State: Queensland
District: Herbert
Subdistrict: Cairns
OCCUPATION .. cpntr (Carpenter)
ADDRESS .. St Margaret's Bdg. Hse (Boarding House), Lake St.

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 22 Jul 2009 11:17

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Jessie Marjorie Elizabeth Pressey
Name: Jessie Marjorie Elizabeth Pressey
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1930 <<< & 1936
State: Queensland
District: Capricornia
Subdistrict: Musgrave
OCCUPATION .. h/d
ADDRESS .. Avondale
with Frederick, Labourer
& ? Frederick jun., Bingera Plantation, labourer ?

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 22 Jul 2009 11:25

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Ina Maud Henry
Name: Ina Maud Henry
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1936
State: Queensland
District: Capricornia
Subdistrict: Eidsvold
OCCUPATION .. h/d
ADDRESS .. Flinders St., Monto
with Arthur Allan, Motor Mechanic.

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 22 Jul 2009 11:56

For interest...

Tom Jeynes married Margaret Wall in 1884.
They had 3 children 1886- 1890 then Tom died in 1891

Margaret re-married...
1897/C244 Connolly Virgil Bernard Jeynes Margaret
children....
1898/C1203 Connolly John Bernard Virgil Bernard Margaret Wall
1903/C901 Connolly Harry Virgil Bernard Margaret Wall
1899/C1270 Connolly Mona Kathleen Virgil Bernard Margaret Wall

Virgin was a Licensed Victualler at, Royal Hotel Gayndah in 1913 & 1919.
In 1925 & 1936 he & Margaret were living on Capper St, and no occupation is listed for Virgil.

Tom & Margarets daughters...

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Dorothy Eliza Gordon
Name: Dorothy Eliza Gordon
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1913 <<<<
State: Queensland
District: Wide Bay
Subdistrict: Gayndah
OCCUPATION .. h/d
ADDRESS .. Barlyne, Gayndah
with Hubert Eaton, Bailiff

death...
1919/C3437 Gordon Hubert Eaton Henry Gordon Charlotta Eaton

re-marry...
1921/C627 Redmond John Joseph Murray Gordon Dorothy Eliza

ustralian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Dorothy Eliza Redmond
Name: Dorothy Eliza Redmond
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1925 <<<<
State: Queensland
District: Wide Bay
Subdistrict: Gayndah
OCCUPATION .. h/d
ADDRESS .. North Gayndah

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Dorothy Eliza Redmond
Name: Dorothy Eliza Redmond
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1936 <<<<
State: Queensland
District: Moreton
Subdistrict: Beaudesert
OCCUPATION .. h/d
ADDRESS .. Kooralbyn, Beaudesert
with John Joseph Murray, Grazier

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936
about Colin Carlyle Gordon
Name: Colin Carlyle Gordon
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936
State: Queensland
District: Moreton
Subdistrict: Beaudesert
OCCUPATION .. Grazier
ADDRESS .. Kooralbyn, Beaudesert

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Hubert Roy Gordon
Name: Hubert Roy Gordon
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1936
State: Queensland
District: Lilley
Subdistrict: Windsor
OCCUPATION .. Clerk
ADDRESS .. 96 Dickson St., Wooloowin