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WHERE IS GREAT GRANDMOTHERS PARENTS HAVE LOOKED AND CANT FIND THEM ROSETTA HAVENS LEXDEN 4A 264
SHE IS LIVING AS A NIECE IN WIVENHOE IN 1871 SO WHAT HAPPENED TO HER PARENTS I WONDER WHOS NIECE IS SHE AS NAMES WHERE ALL DIFFERENT SHE WAS LIVING WITH NOT EVEN A MARRIED COUPLE
VERY CONFUSING

HI CATHERINE
YES I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT AFTER GOING BACK ON ALL INFO
im not to good at this yet i just wonder why rossetta not with parents
but living with possible uncle and aunt was she also fostered do you think
i think thats whats confusing me will need to find her parents names
perhaps not married we will have to see thanks ruth

Ruth,
I do think that all the names do correspond to the same person but there have just been mistakes made by the person doing the transcript.
If you check the census records all the other names fit.
If you look at the 1911 census, son Leonard is noted as Lensard and Pansey (in 1901) is now Pansy.
The transcripters often made spelling mistakes so you must have an open mind when researching.
Hope it all helps anyway.
Catherine

hi all
i think rossetta havens probably not related areas and names dont seem to fit in.great grandads name is edwin not edison or edarn as have googled pub
little crown and he is down edwin parker as landlord from 189s to 1917 and grandma is landlady by 1925 dont know about inbetween dates allthough dad was born there in 1921 .need to get all my facts together so far and take a trip to libarary to see if they have trade directories would love to find some photos of grandparents as have nothing will sort out what cert i need and get them ordered but money tight so will have to see which ones most important to me thank you so much for all your help to you all its really made my week thanks ruth

Hello Ruth,

If you google - (pubs in colchester) - or - (little crown pub, colchester) - it will show you a site where you can see a photo of the pub. It also gives you contact details for the pub, if you give them a ring the owners may know the history of the pub or be able to put you in touch with someone who does.

HI ALL
THANKS CASSIE solves riddle for me as grandma must have died when i was 2 and a year before our mum died in 1952 always wondered why
grandparents didnt look after us when our mum died now i know
thought for all these years we were abandoned from our own family
takes away part of the anger thanks for your help must get cert sent for
so i can start family tree. for my family regards ruth

poss death

ELSIE C FISK age 65
COLCHESTER
SEP Q 1951
VOL: 4A
PG : 418

Cassy

EDIT

GOOD LUCK RUTH!!!!!

Cassy :-))))))))))

HI CATHERINE
I dont think they are related dad must have been only child he never spoke of his family on the few times that we had contact never spoke of my mum or her family or his family and he has passed away many years ago now
so to late to find out. the pub that granparents ran was still run by the fisk family as name over the door very recently not sure if still open as not been to colchester town for a few years. it was no 12 short wyre st colchester little crown i think .any ideas if grandma remarried or when she died regards ruth

Couldn't find any more births under the names of Fisk - Parker but did find this one with a phonetic search:-

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Fish Alice M (Parker) B.Stortford 3a 1815

and one under Fisk - Barker:-

Name: Cyril D W Fisk
Mother's Maiden Surname: Barker
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1917
Registration district: Bosmere
Registration county: Essex, Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 1298

but you would have to buy the certs. to see if the parents match. (Lot of expense)?

HI ALL
THE ROWHEDGE CONNECTION IS SPOT ON AS HAVE HAD CONFIRMATION FROM DISTANT COUSIN WHO WAS ALSO GREAT GRANDSON OF WILLIAM AND ISABELLA I THINK HIS GRANDMOTHER WAS A SARAH MARRIED A WOODS A SISTER OF MY GRANDAD ROBERT ELDEST I THINK .NAMES SEEM TO BE DIFFERENT IN
WAS GREAT GRANDADS NAME EDISON EDARN OR EDWIN
ST BOTOLPHS AREA SEEMS TO BE MOST LIKELY AREA THEY WERE BORN AS PUB THAT GRANDAD AND GRANDMA RAN IS IN THAT AREA
BUT DID THEY HAVE ANY OTHER CHILDREN AS SEEMS LONG WHILE MARRIED FROM 1914 TO BIRTH OF MY DAD IN 1921I AM TRYING TO DO FAMILY HISTORY FOR MY CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN AS ALREADY HAVE HUSBANDS AND WOULD LIKE TO PASS IT ON TO THEM
FUNNY HOW NAMES HAVE CROPPED UP AS MY OWN CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN HAVE NAMES THE SAME AS ANSESTORS WITHOUT ME KNOWING THEM THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP SO FAR ALL OF YOU ANGELS RUTH

Off to bed now, but will look in tomorrow to see how you've got on!
Catherine

poss birth??

Births Sep 1875 (>99%)
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Fisk Robert Ernest E P Lexden 4a 356

Cassy

1911
First names ROBERT
Last names FISK
Birth Place ROWHEDGE

only one:-
HOUSEHOLD FISK ROBERT M 1876 35 Lexden Essex

possibly living in the same house, but you would have to pay to be sure:-

HOUSEHOLD FISK HILDA F 1894 17 Colchester Essex
HOUSEHOLD FISK ISABELLA F 1844 67 Lexden Essex
HOUSEHOLD FISK SYDNEY M 1877 34 Lexden Essex
HOUSEHOLD FISK WILLIAM M 1845 66 Lexden Essex
HOUSEHOLD FISK WILLIAM M 1874 37 Lexden Essex

could this be his death??

Deaths Mar 1924 (>99%)
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Fisk Robert 46 Colchester 4a 1064


Cassy

Births Jun 1859 (>99%)
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Havens Rosetta Lexden 4a 264

1871 England Census
Name: Rosetta Havens
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Wivenhoe, Essex, England
Civil parish: Wivenhoe
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Lexden
Sub-registration district: Wivenhoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 93
Household Members: Name Age
Jonathan Harvey 65
Eleanor Dyer 47
**********************Rosetta Havens 11
Walter Gobell 5

Here are Edwin and Rosetta in 1881, he is noted as brother-in-law:-

Name: Edarn Parker
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Brother in Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Colchester, Essex, England

Civil parish: Wivenhoe
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: The Quay (Sailors Return)
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Lathe Fitter

Registration district: Lexden
Sub-registration district: Wivenhoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Taylor 60 born: Layer De La Hay, Essex
(Mariner)
Sarah Taylor 56 born: Wivenhoe, Essex
Edarn Parker 35 (on original record age looks like 25)
Rosetta Parker 22 born: Wivenhoe, Essex

Possible marriage for the couple:-
Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)
Farrington William Lexden 4a 718 Scan available - click to view
FERRINGTON William Lexden 4a 718
<<<<Havens Rosetta Lexden 4a 718
NORFOLE Emily Lexden 4a 718
Norfolk Emily Lexden 4a 718
<<<<Parker Edward Lexden 4a 718

1891 census robert isnt with his family!
Name: Robert Fisk
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowhedge, Essex, England

Civil parish: Prittlewell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Prittlewell
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:4 Prittlewell Road

Occupation:Plumber

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Prittlewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Tether 24
Rosina Tether 20
Thomas Wallin 35
William Woods 28
Thomas Tether 22
Robert Fisk 16




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1392; Folio 70; Page 24; GSU roll: 6096502.

1901 census
Name: Robert Fisk
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowhedge, Essex, England

Civil parish: East Donyland
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:Chapel Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lexden
Sub-registration district: Wivenhoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members: Name Age
William Fisk 55 occ Mariner (seas) b Wivenhoe essex
Isabella Fisk 56 b Rowhedge
William Fisk 27 occ labourer in Shipyard
Robert Fisk 25 occ mariner (seas)
Sydney Fisk 19 occ mariner (seaes)
Williamina Fisk 17 occ tailoress

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1713; Folio: 30; Page: 18.

HI
PHEW that was quick i think you may both be right have a copy of dads birth cert it does look like a b but bit hard to deciper so we will go with parker dads birth was 27th august registered 3rd oct so it all ties in
but would like more info on grandparents if poss i know grandad came from rowhedge originally have found out a bit about his side but no birth or death or marrige for them .i know he was deceased by 1944 as have mum and dads marriage cert and he was down as deceased on it. i know nothing about grandmother at all so any thing would be great thankyou