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Derek

No offence taken. But the age was probably given wrong to the enumerator.

Maureen

sorry to be so much, trouble at present I have no Marriage certs for Thomas and Mary.
Thomas was born 1826 at kirby hill son of Jacob Henderson 1796 and Ann Woodward 1794 most of the Hendersons were born in and around east layton,dale ton kirby hill areas.
I can't understand why they married in Hull,unless she was born there or her parents lived there. The 1861 census is the one I have. I must sayit is most confusing to me too. when two places are given as places of birth makes it even more of a confusion. so the first thing I must do is to find their birth or marriage certs.

hope I have not put you both to too much trouble.

Thank you so much and I will research the data you have given me.

Many Thanks
Dee

Glitter ..no offence,,but she cannot be 24 in 1851 and 25 in 1861..I know ages were inaccurate....but not by that much........These are two different families.

derek

Had another think on this one.

Do you actually have any birth certs that give the name of mother as Mary A Nelson?

The 1849 marriage in Richmond is the most likely one and not the one in Sculcoates - so she could be Mary A Horton.

East Hope (Hope), Dalton, Kirkby Hill are all in the area of Barningham so why did they marry in Sculcoates.

1861 just for info

Name: Mary A Henderson
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Barningham, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Evenwood Barony
Ecclesiastical parish: Etherley
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Henderson 33 Kirby Hill, Yorkshire
Mary A Henderson 25
Jos Henderson 9
Ester Henderson 5
Mary A Henderson 3



I think the 1851 family I posted she is Mary Jane in 1861



1851 for info - but both have changed place of birth
Name: Mary Ann Henderson
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thos
Gender: Female
Where born: Hope

Civil parish: Dalton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Richmond
Sub-registration district: Richmond
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Henderson 24 born Dalton
Mary Ann Henderson 24



So why did they marry in Sculcoates



Query this marriage
Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%)
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Ableson Margaret Richmond Yk 24 521
Bowes Jane Richmond Yk 24 521
Dent Mary Ann Richmond Y 24 521
Emmerson John Richmond Y 24 521
Fawcett William Richmond Yk 24 521
HEATHWAITE James Richmond Y. 24 521
Henderson Thomas Richmond Y 24 521
Horton Mary Ann Richmond Y. 24 521



1871 she gives place of birth as Hope
Children match the 1861



East Hope is in the same area as Barningham

The mary Ann henderson with a husband Thomas was in 1851 living in Sculcoates Hull with their two babies James and Thomas..........
She was born in Sculcoates Hull. by 1871 they were in Durham

Derek

ok and many thanks
Dee

Right..so a starting point is the both Glitterbaby and i have found her in Hull in 1850...........

be back later!!

Derek

yes derek her married name was Henderson husbands name Thomas

Hi Glitter, no it gives Hope,yorks in some and Barningham in other census.

mary ann and thomas lived in etherly, evenwood and barony 1861 with children
Jos (jacob) 1853, esther John and Mary ann.
in 1871 she was widowand lived tow law,wolsingham durham.
1881 lived Dans Castle, tow law, durhamwith only John at home.

Any idea of her married name?????
Have found a mary Ann Nelson who married Thomas henderson in Hull 1850....

Derek

Hi Glitter Baby will try this first one and see if I can get any updated info on this family .

Thank you
Dee

Even more confused

1851 has this family
Name: Mary Ann Henderson
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Sculcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: West Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Henderson 27
Mary Ann Henderson 21
James Henderson 2
Thomas Henderson 6 Mo




Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%)
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Henderson Thomas Sculcoates 22 469

1891 does she give Yarm as place of birth ?

would mary have been a servant at 12.

or would she have been sent to maybe relatives

Hi Derek, my mary was around in 1891 so dont think that one is her either

but thank you
Dee

I dont have certificate yet.

This is getting complicated..........Mary Ann Nelson baptised barnigham06.12.1829..d of Henry and Eleanor

DIED 1830

Derek

1841 ?? but not at home

Name: Mary Nebson
[Mary Nelson]
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Eastrington
Hundred: Howdenshire
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Howden
Sub-registration district: Newport
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hardey Brabbs 35
Alice Brabbs 35
John Pallowfield 60
Mary Nebson 12
Thos Brabbs 6
John Brabbs 4
Abigail Jackson 40
Easter Bishop 75
Elizabeth Edley 20

1841 this one is Nelson on image but no Mary

Name: Ann Nelton
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Richmond
Hundred: Richmond Borough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Richmond
Sub-registration district: Richmond
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Nelton 45
Ann Nelton 40
John Nelton 20
Martha Nelton 15
Ann Nelton 15
Richard Nelton 15
Jane Nelton 13
Thomas Nelton 10
Eliza Nelton 8
Henry Nelton 5
James Nelton 1



Did she not have a father named on marriage cert?