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Wow
Look at all this information, got loads of searching to do now to feel some missing gaps

Samantha

OMG
Using the site listed above i have managed to get back to 1735 loads of filling in on the tree now,
Thanks

Samantha

Ok, so we now know where Warren comes from as it was the mothers maiden name and Edwina was a name that was in the family alot, but i still havent as yet managed to discover where the name Bryant came from.

Samantha

Have you traced Thomas John Vicary? Who was his father?

Hi Selena

His father was also a Thomas Vicary
and i dont have anything after him, proving a little difficult

Samantha

Is this a possibility? But where is his wife?

Household Record 1881 British Census

Elizabeth VICARY Wife (Head) M Female 47 Westminster, Middlesex, England Dressmaker
Thomas J. VICARY Son M Male 22 Stepney, Middlesex, England Printer Compositor
Alfred A. VICARY Son U Male 21 Stepney, Middlesex, England Printer Compositor
Charles VICARY Son U Male 16 Stepney, Middlesex, England Brass Finisher
Arthur E. VICARY Son U Male 15 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Unemployd
Martha VICARY Sister U Female 41 Westminster, Middlesex, England Unemployd Ladies Maid

Dwelling 3 Townsend St
Census Place Southwark St George Martyr, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341117
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0524 / 28

This is Thomas J Vicary with siblings and mother, his wife was Ellen Jane Taylor but we do not know where she was at this time.
I think his father has already passed away by this time.

Samantha

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This is a possible marriage for the Vicary parents. Elizabeth says she was born Westminster and St Martin's in the Fields is in that area.

Marriages Jun 1857
Bex Frederick St Martin in the F 1a 596
Nicholls Elizabeth St Martin in the F 1a 596
POTTER Barbara St Martin in the F 1a 596
Vicary Thomas William St Martin in the F 1a 596

However we haven't found how the name Bryant is in the family.

Also on the 1881 Elizabeth is down as married, not widowed.

Well here are the vicary twins, but who is Ann? Is this Ellen

Ann VICARY Lodger (Head) M Female 22 Camberwell, Surrey, England Milliner
Francis VICARY (Son) Male 6 m Battersea, Surrey, England
Frances VICARY (Daur) Female 6 m Battersea, Surrey, England

Dwelling 6 Williams Place
Census Place Newington, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341126
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0554 / 28
Page Number 49

Hi

Nope we cannot work out if Ann is Ellen or if its the same family???I do believe Thomas William Vicary's mother was named Mary?

None of the census seem to match up for the twins, this has confused us some what

Sam

A year on and still none the wiser as to weather Ann/Ellen is the same person, the twins were born 1880 and the mothers name on the birth cert says Ellen and not Ann.
And still have not found out were the name Bryant comes in to it all.
Looks like i may have to dig out all of the paperwork and start back tracking to see if i have missed anything.

Sam