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seems I have been off line for ages.
I am glad you liked the Port cities site. this internet is far too exciting and i really dont have the time now.
so to all I met in my search for Jaques Burdick quest Thanks for your help. Brenda

What an interesting site
thankyou

There is a photo of the statue on PORTCITIES DEPTFORD site.
Brenda

Peter the Great Not Fred

The Statue I saw of Fred the Great was from a boat on the Thames. I really do not know where exactly it is but I will have a try with the Lewisham Local History site. the Ato Z has a good map of the area. if you have an up to date one who knows what might show up.
Will get back to you. Brenda

Sorry Brenda
I do home visits all over SE london and frequently in Deptford. I was thinking I had not come across the statue before so thought I would look out for it. If I understand you correctly that is still there?

Christine, It seams I didnt make my self clear .
The Jaques moved up to Charlton From Deptford and Rotherhithe, in 1850s
When at Deptford they lived at Sayers Court Brunswick square,
and it that Sayer Cour that was leased to John Evelyne by his Father in law and then when the Tzar loaned it he made a mess. to commemorate that the new flats on the River have the Statue of Fred the Great,
I dont think there is any thing left of Sayers Court
If there was any thing in the 20th century it would have been obliterated by the ww2 bombing, The area is a turning off of Creek Rd Deptford called Watergate Street, That is the address on Martha Matilda's Baptism entry in St Paul's Church records, Deptford Hope I made it a bit clearer, Brenda .

Strange as I am working in leafy Charlton too.
Must look out for that.
Where is it?

Thanks Christine , You all have been so busy for thanks Brenda

it me again Gillian, The 1841 census at Sayers Court Deptford has Great Great Granda James Jaques and his motherAND his mother in law along with his own family A brave man i'd say.
he was back in 1820s when he was first wed to Martha Matilda Bond, a Convict keeper or Prison guard on the hulks that were moored along by Woolwich Arsenal and Ship yard.
I find that fascinating. Moving to Deptford and then to Rotherhithe , the family must have been in such fetid air, Tanneries and flooding from Thames ,that to moveupto leafy Charlton must have been wonderful.
Sayers Court Deptford was the home od Joun Evelyne diarist.
He loaned it to the Tzar of Russia for a while 1680-90s and he appariently made a bit of a mess of it. There is at this time lots of redevelopmentinthe area and silhouetted in the main door way of a new block of flats is a massive statue of the Tzar of Russia. Frederick the Great.Can be seen from the river Thames.

Just a bit of local knowledge Brenda

and this one

MARTHA MATILDA JAQUES Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 25 OCT 1841

Christening: 27 DEC 1841 Saint Paul, Deptford, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES JAQUES Family
Mother: MARTHA MATILDA




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MARTHA MATILDA JACQUES Pedigree
Female
Event(s):
Birth: 23 OCT 1836

Christening: 21 NOV 1836 Saint Paul, Deptford, London, England


Parents:
Father: JAS. JACQUES Family
Mother: MATILDA

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1841 Address: Say's Court, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich

JAQUES, James M 35 1806 Kent VIEW
JAQUES, Matildia F 35 1806 Kent VIEW
JAQUES, Eliza F 70 1771 Kent VIEW
JAQUES, Georg M 11 1830 Kent VIEW
JAQUES, John M 7 1834 Kent VIEW
JAQUES, Henry M 2 1839 Kent VIEW
BOND, Mary F 70 1771 Kent

1891 66 Andrew St West Ham
Henry Jaques 26 Driller sugar factory b Charlton
Elizabeth 25 wife b greenwich
Annie 2 b Plumstead
Mabel 2 mths b Silverstone Essex

1881 Charlton 2 Mount St
Henry JAGUES ( sic) 43 Boiler Maker b Woolwich
Maria 46 wife b Greenwich
Maria 18 Telegraph Clerk
Henry 16
Alf 15
James 12
William 10
George 6
John 4 all children born Charlton

Henry Frederick C Jaques (1865) married Elizabeth Rachel Scott 1887 Sep Q Woolwich 1d 1617

1871 Charlton
Henry Jacques 33 Vice Man (Whitesmiths) b Deptford
Maria 30 wife b Greenwich
Annie 10
Maria 8
Henry 6
Alfred 4 all b Woolwich
James 1 b Sheerness

Yes Gillian ,Matilda, was a name of my paternal great great granmothers. Martha Matilda Bond who wed James Jaques,
Woolwich and Deptford,
Regards Brenda

Thanks Gillian that is the family of my birth mother Alice Maud Jaques. it is all comming along nicely thanks. another address
to add.

1901 66 Andrew St Canning town West Ham (mistranscribed)
Henry Jagnes (sic) 36 Engine fitter b Charlton Kent
Elizabeth 35 wife b Greenwich kent
Annie 12 b Plumstead Kent
Mabel 12
Henry 10
ELSIE 4
Laura 1 all b West Ham

There is a Elsie Matilda Jacques registered 1897 Mar Q West Ham (could have been born Late 1896) vol 4a page 169
Could the N be a misprint for M?

Hello Ethel, I see you have Elsie b in Fulham my Aunt Elsie Jaques was b in West ham and I have seen the references that you gave me for the family and I really have to get the Certificate. so many thanks Regards brenda.

Hello Christine. As I just wrote to Janey,
Elsie Jaques was wed to George Burdick in 1925 Lewisham and I do have 2 sons b 1930 and 31. I will get the marriage cert, I was hoping for a shortcut. to the family. I should know by now 'there are no short cuts'. all your hoffer gratfully accepted Thanks Regards Brenda