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Jerret Moore b. c 1907 Scotland?

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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Aug 2009 21:25

Jean

If they emigrated with their children in 1907, and you have the names and ages of their children, you need to look on Scotlandspeople for the birth certificate of one of the children. This will tell you the date and place of the parents' marriage. The marriage certificate will then give you Ellen's details.

If you already know Alexander's parents' names including his mother's maiden surname then you can find their deaths on Scotlandspeople, assuming that they died in Scotland. If you look for his mother's death first (you can search cross referencing her maiden surname and married surname) the certificate will tell you if she is "married to" or "widow of" thus narrowing the time scale for her husband's death.

EDIT

Jean, Ancestry has a few Alex. Moore entries on incoming passenger ships - alas I don't have worldwide subscription so I can't look at them. Just wondering if he visited family and missed the 1901 census here?

The penny just dropped when I looked at the census for Alexander and realised that it was THE Moore family of Glasgow that this posting referred to. I certainly wasn't quick of the mark this morning!!

Hope you are well Jean and happy hunting!

Linda

Jean

Jean Report 22 Aug 2009 14:05

Hello Rootgatherer,
I seem to be clutching at straws with "my"Alexander, thought it might have been him on the passenger list and canadian census with his wife and children , but unfortunately it wasn't, all the signs were there, d.o.b. area of Glasgow they were married etc.
There is no marriage or death for him in Scotland.
I will keep searching.

best wishes
jean

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 Aug 2009 10:50

If you are still searching for Alexander's marriage to Ellen, have you tried using Helen for the spouse name or even Nell or Nellie as these are all names used by someone with the given name Helen? Often on marriage certificates women use the names that they are known by rather than their "proper" name and also the other way round.

Jean

Jean Report 21 Aug 2009 23:12

Sorry Viv,
I found his birth on Scotlands People, and thought the Alexander on the passenger list must be him but I was badly mistaken.
jean

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Aug 2009 23:04

How do you know that they are Henry and Margaret please.
You didnt say that at the start.

And the children of Alex and Helen/Ellen have all the names of their fathers parents /siblings on the info I have found.

Helen

Helen Report 21 Aug 2009 23:04

Think the information Vivienne found was correct. Alexander's occupation on the 1901 census is a Painter.

1891 Scotland Census
about Alexander More
Name: Alexander More
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert R
Mother's Name: Isabella R
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Kelvin
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 13 Grovepark St
Occupation: Mesage Boy
ED: 105
Household schedule number: 30
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1891_280
Household Members: Name Age
Robert R More
44
Isabella R More
38
Thomas More
17
Alexander More
14
Robert More
13
Mary More
11
William More
9




1901 Scotland Census
about Alexander More
Name: Alexander More
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Isabella Reid
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/8
Registration district: Milton
Civil parish: Glasgow St George in The Fields
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 239 Garsgube Road
Occupation: Painter
ED: 37
Household schedule number: 20
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1901_295
Household Members: Name Age
Isabella Reid More
47
Thomas More
27
Alexander More
24
Mary More
21
William More
19
Gavin More
18
David More
16

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Aug 2009 23:03

Ok ,but It is the family on the Canadian census and passenger lists.

Jean

Jean Report 21 Aug 2009 23:01

Viv,
I don't know what to say , It's not my Alexander, I am really sorry, but thank you so much for your time.
By the way I found the joke funny, is that naughty of me ?

jean

My Alexander's parents were Henry and Margaret.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Aug 2009 22:58

A middle name could well have been added at baptism,it often was.

This is definately the family that was on the Canadian census and the Passenger lists that I have put up.
And on the passenger lists he has the middle initial of R.

If its not I will eat my HAT!

Edit,,,and become a nun!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Aug 2009 22:56

Here it is

1 1901 MORE ALEXANDER REID MONTEITH HELEN LINDSAY
KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

12th july 1901 at 63 hinsham/w street?{hard to read}
Alexander Reid More,,paper hanger(journeyman)age26 bachelor
Father,,Robert More,,FUNERAL UNDERTAKER{deceased},wonder if he buried himself??sorry ,bad joke!
Mother Isabella More,,maiden name Reid.


Helen Lindsay Monteith,,Power loom weaver,,age 24

Father ,,John Monteith,,foundry labourer,,deceased

Mother,,Mary Monteith,, Maiden name Lindsay

Witnesses

Henry Kennedy and Jessie Monteith

Jean

Jean Report 21 Aug 2009 22:51

Oh Viv,
My Alexander didn't have a middle name according to his birth certificate, but the Kelvin area is where my Moore family lived .

jean

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Aug 2009 22:44

Details on birth cert first..

Jessie born nov 22,at 10.45pm
Address
Murano street?glasgow
Father Alexander reid more,,,paper hanger
Mother,,Helen lindsay more,maiden name,,monteith.

Married in Kelvin district Glasgow

Jean

Jean Report 21 Aug 2009 22:42

Viv,
You are a star,
I just hope it is " my " Alexander and I haven't just wasted your time, I have been searching for him for ages.

jean

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Aug 2009 22:39

Please dont hate me, but no it doesnt.
The marriage cert will have both parents,I hope..
Ill go look then we can find him in 1901 on Ancestry if you like?
Back in a bit.
viv

Jean

Jean Report 21 Aug 2009 22:35

I hate to ask you but does it show Alexanders parents ?
jean

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Aug 2009 22:31

It Is the second one.
Mother and father are correct and so is Alexanders occupation.

It says on her birth cert they married 12th july 1901.

I had to look ,I hate not knowing when I have started.
viv

Jean

Jean Report 21 Aug 2009 22:29

Viv,
Thank you again, this is much appreciated,
I will look for marraige for Alexander with surname MORE, and the 2nd Jessie born in Maryhill looks promising as Alexanders sister's children were all born in Maryhill, fingers crossed.

best wishes
jean

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Aug 2009 22:22

I think Jessie will prob be the 2nd one as going on passenger lists she was born in November/ December 1906

1 1907 MORE JESSIE MOFFAT R F CAMBUSNETHAN /LANARK 628/00 0532 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
2 1906 MORE JESSIE MONTEITH F MARYHILL GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 622/01 1688 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Aug 2009 22:19

OK Thats them

Alex R more 27 <>painter
Helen H More 26
Mary 5
Isa R 3
Jessie= 7 months

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Aug 2009 22:15

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Jessie M More
Name: Jessie M More
Age: 7/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Date of Arrival: 21 Jul 1907
Vessel: Cassandra
Search Ship Database: View the 'Cassandra' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Roll: T-491

Back in a bit with whos travelling with her.