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I think you perhaps need to check out the facts you have working back again?

looking at marriages
Marriages Sep 1917 (>99%)
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Grimes Muriel Hitchcock Ecclesall B. 9c 649
Hawkins James Twyman Ecclesall B. 9c 649
Hitchcock Thomas L Grimes Ecclesall B. 9c 649
Twyman Rosina Hawkins Ecclesall B. 9c 649

Don't think ti was this family from the 1881 Census. I looked at the image, and I've annotated the list with what it says on there. Although Eliza Guy's occupation looks interesting! I'm not too sure what it actually means ...... is she living on Railway dividends or distributing them??


Harriet Hawkins 52 b.ca 1829, Prtsea, Hampshire, STONEMASONS WIFE
Harriet A. Hawkins 23 b.ca 1858, Portsea, Dressmaker
Kate Hawkins 18 Pupil Teacher
Jane E. Hawkins 16 Scholar
James H. Hawkins 9 Scholar
Eliza Guy 43 Visitor, Occupation ... Railway Dividends

Address:- 10 Milton Terrace




sylvia

now that does look interesting because i have never found anyone with any connection to railway at all x

Zoe


I really don't think that harriet Hawkins is any connection to you. It says on the 1881 that she si a Stone Masons wife



and here she is on the 1861 Census


1861 Census

Name: Harriett Hawkins
[Harriett Methven]
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsea, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Portsea
Town: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Portsea Town

Charlotte Methven 57 Head, Grocers Shop Keeper
John Methven 25 son, Stone Mason
Charles Hawkins 35 son-in-law, Stone Mason
Harriett Hawkins 32 daughter (of Charlotte)
Charlotte Hawkins 10 granddaughter
Harriett Hawkins 3 granddaughter
Emma Hawkins 10 Mo granddaughter


Address:- 14 Daniel Street (Grocers Shop)




sylvia

maybe eliza lived of her husbands dividends and he was a railway operator too, oh i dont know i am baffled and stressed but thanks for helping x

and in 1871


1871 Census

Name: Harriett Hawkin
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsea, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Gillingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Gillingham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham

Charles Hawkin 45 b.ca 1826, Plymouth, Devon, Stone Mason
Harriett Hawkin 42
Harriett Ann Hawkin 13
Emma Hawkin 10
Kate Hawkin 8
Jane Elizabeth Hawkin 6

Address:- 3 Church Path


All children born Portsea, Hampshire




sylvia

well, I think you can cross this family off your list! So that is one James Hawkins out of consideration!




sylvia

yes i think so but then again i wonder if he made up about his father oh i dont know ia m totalllllllly baffled i need a family hisorian to sort it out, lol

Not so sure you should discount it Zoe

again, can't find a birth for Henry Hawkins right date but there is a Henry Hawkins in Portsea. I am just wondering if the James in the 1881 with Harriet might be the son of Henry but just possibly living with Henry's brother's family? Worth checking out maybe....

1881 England Census
about Henry Hawkins
Name: Henry Hawkins
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsea, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: 7 Ordnance Row Golden Fleece
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Portsea Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edwin Martell 61
Sarah Martell 60
James Brady 35
Henry Hawkins 28

Could it be James wasnt born a Hawkins but Henry Andrew Hawkins brought him up so he was the only father he knew.

oh i have been searchin again and cant find anything any help would be great x

JUST CHECKING STUFF FOUND A HENRY ANDREW HAWKINS B1837
Henry Andrew Hawkins
1837 in Farnham,
Surrey,
, England
Death
Parents & Siblings
James Hawkins (1814-1892) Hannah Collins (1816-1876)
Spouse & Children
Jane Hawkins (1841-)
Charles H.W. Hawkins (1870-)
Jemima Hawkins (1872-)
Ruth Hawkins (1876-)
1837
Birth
Farnham
Surrey,
, England
Age: 14 Residence
Binsted
, Hampshire,
Age: 14 Residence
Binsted,
Hampshire,
England
Age: 24 Residence
Binsted, Hampshire, England
Age: 44 Residence
Binsted, Hampshire, England 1
Age: 54 Residence
Selborne, Hampshire, England
Age: 64 Residence
Selborne, Hampshire,
Parents James Hawkins 1814 – 1892
Hannah Collins 1816 – 1876 Show siblings
Hide siblings
Frederick Hawkins 1835 – Elleanor Mercy Hawkins 1843 – James Hawkins 1844 – 1925 Fanny Hawkins 1845 – Eliza Hawkins 1847 – Esther Hawkins 1849 – Alice Hawkins 1855 – 1930 Laura Hawkins 1855 –
Spouse & Children


Jane Hawkins 1841 –
Charles H.W. Hawkins 1870 – Jemima Hawkins 1872 – Ruth Hawkins 1876 –

Hi starr,
sorry i have only just seen this do u think he could be connected ?
thanks for all your help
x

DUPLICATED THREAD!!!!!!!

i am sorry i didnt know and dont use the threads much
so what do i do now as i have 2 going
????????????????

Dear Zoe, so sorry to have upset you about having Duplicate Threads on the same person. BUT, please do not PM me again, that is not nice.

We help with searching, because we enjoy doing it and helping others, we are not paid to do this, it is not a write of passage because we pay our GR fees. It is just that we love what we do. When you have 2 threads going on the same person and many people helping with those 2 threads and then find out that you already had been given the information it is very frustrating for the people who are trying to help you.

I try to help as I was given so much help from members who are willing to give up their time, knowledge and resources to paid sites. I for one am always grateful to these members. Also, I now try to help when I can to return some of the knowledge I have been given by the wonderful people on here.

I would advise that if you continue to want help on here, to only put up one thread on the one person, not 2. You are welcome to have 2 threads, but for different people. Saves time for those searching.

Looking at your member number you joined before I did, so in theory should be aware of the etiquette of the boards by now.

Gail

Gail,
Thankyou for your advice, I have been a member for some years but my brother who was only 23, my grandfather and my grandmother all died within a year so I have not been on here for a long time, I have only just renewed my membership and forgot everything which was found,
So Sorry to have mislead or upset anybody.
Zoe

Hi,Would anyone want to help me find James Hawkins born1873 kent, many thanks
Zoe x