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marriage of John Jordan + Ann

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Stephen

Stephen Report 2 Sep 2009 12:07

I am trying to find the marriage of John Jordan and wife Ann in Shropshire.........here is them on 1851 census

Name: John Jordan
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Ainn, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Steventon
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Ludlow
Sub-registration district: Leintwardine
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
John Jordan 35
Ann Jordan 40
William Tyefinsh 18
Elizabeth Jordan 18
Ann Jordan 7

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I cannot find them in 1841 or any other census........so can anyone help me find them on 41, 61, 71 census + their marriage, thankyou!!!!...................also trying to find a baptism for John c1816

Julie

Julie Report 2 Sep 2009 12:14

have you looked on here for a mariage

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
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is Elizabeth Ann's daughter as there is a big gap between Elizabeth & Ann ( daughter)

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 2 Sep 2009 12:14

Please confirm that you have searched on freebmd for the marriage.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 2 Sep 2009 12:16

Well, William is 'stepson' so you have a lead there..................

Liz 47

Liz 47 Report 2 Sep 2009 12:17

Have you tried looking for their marriage on the IGI or searching this site to see if anyone else is looking for the family
Liz

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 2 Sep 2009 12:18

Here is the youngest child, Ann, from the 1851 plus her mother who is listed as a widow.

1861 England Census
about Ann Jordan
Name: Ann Jordan
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Ludford, Herefordshire, England

Civil parish: Ludford
Ecclesiastical parish: Hereford
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Ludlow
Sub-registration district: Ludlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Jordan 55 ....laundress
Sarah Palmer 25 ....daughter
Edwin Palmer 24 ...son in law
Ann Jordan 18 daughter....laundress
John Pyfinch 10 ...grandson
Edwin Palmer 4 Mo....grandson


 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 2 Sep 2009 12:19

Marriages Dec 1843 (97%)

Jordan John Ludlow 18 117
Pyefinch Ann Ludlow 18 117

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 2 Sep 2009 12:20

I'm not convinced that John is only 35 in 1851 - I think the image may show him to be 55. Perhaps someone else would care to check?

Possible 1841 - if my theory is correct

Name: Elizabeth Jordan
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Gender: Female
Where born: Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Ludford
Hundred: Munslow (Lower Division)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Ludlow
Sub-registration district: Ludlow
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Jordan 40
Derimo Jordan 40
Mary Jordan 10
Elizabeth Jordan 8


Freewheel

Freewheel Report 2 Sep 2009 12:22

Marriages Dec 1843 (97%)
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EDWARDS Harriet Ludlow 18 117
Hartland Benjamin Ludlow 18 117
Jordan John Ludlow 18 117
Pyefinch Ann Ludlow 18 117

Stephen

Stephen Report 2 Sep 2009 12:25

the Tyefinch is slightly confusing...........John and Ann Jordans daughter Ann born 1843 married John Griffiths - they had a daughter Elizabeth b1867 who married Alfred PYEFINCH.............there is obviously another link to the Pyefinches andd think this was ment to read PYEFINCH not Tyefinch

Stephen

Stephen Report 2 Sep 2009 12:28

the marriage fits but not the ages of the children - I'm getting confused now! It doesnt go with John being born 1816

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 2 Sep 2009 12:31

It always pays to look at the original image , sometimes it can be a clear mistranscription, There is a facility to put in a correction for future searchers.

Stephen, I suggest that one or both of then have been married before and you should buy the marriage cert I found which will say, widow or previous married or maiden names.

Ckecking of ancestry there already is a correction and a postem which means someone else has you relative?

Pyefinch rather than Tyefinsh
This is a relative whom I have documentation to verify name is incorrectly transcribed.
Submitted by AlbertGee47 on 15/03/2008, You could ask someone on ancestry to contact him.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Sep 2009 12:31

Possibly Anne and first husband:
1841 census
Ludlow, Shropshire
John Pyefinch, 30, shoemaker
Anne, 28
William, 7
Sarah, 4
All born in county except John.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 2 Sep 2009 12:34

'Tyefinsh' is only how the transcriber read the image - suggest you look at it yourself to see the problems he/she would have encountered.

As I stated above, he is stepson to John Jordan......................so the marriage is clearly correct, and you can find out John's age (and father's details) by purchasing the certificate,

ALso - see my comments about 1851 - and 1841 census posted above !

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 2 Sep 2009 12:43

Looking at the 1841 census found by Freewheel - could this be the death of John Jordan's first wife??

Deaths Mar 1842 (>99%)
JORDAN Desi_a Ludlow 18 85

followed by the re-marriage to Ann Pyefinch in 1843 as stated by Freewheel.

The original image of the 1851 looks more like 55 years old for John, so bearing in mind that ages were rounded to the nearest 5 years in the 1841 census, this is very likely your John.

Stephen

Stephen Report 2 Sep 2009 12:56

Ann is a widow on 1861 census, staying with her is John Pyefinch aged 10 grandson.

My line follows Ann Jordan b1843........looks like John is her father, Ann could be her mother if they married that year..........will have to try to find Anns birth record c1843 Ludford , herefordshire

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 2 Sep 2009 13:05

Possible birth for Ann??

Births Sep 1844 (>99%)
Jordan Ann Ludlow 18 86

Stephen

Stephen Report 2 Sep 2009 13:09

thank you for your time everyone...........I'm going off to order some certificates

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 2 Sep 2009 13:14

earch Results | Download | Print

JOHN JORDAN
Pedigree
Male
Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: DECIMA THOMAS
Family
Marriage:
25 JUN 1838 Ludford, Shropshire, England


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Decima Thomas and John JORDAN
Name: Decima Thomas
Year of Registration: 1838
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Ludlow
County: Herefordshire, Shropshire
Volume: 18
Page: 167 (click to see others on

Stephen

Stephen Report 2 Sep 2009 13:44

PLEASE HELP ME AGAIN - THERES SOMETHING i CANT QUITE FIGURE OUT!!! THERE IS A LINK SOMEWHERE!

on my tree I also have William John Pyefinch c1835 Ludlow.........now I am confused. On 1841 census he is here:

Name: William Pyefinch
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England

Civil parish: St Lawrence
Hundred: Ludlow
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Ludlow
Sub-registration district: Ludlow
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Nancy Price 40
John Pyefinch 30
Anne Pyefinch 28
William Pyefinch 7
Sarah Pyefinch 4

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but he is with Ann + John Jordan in 1851........there seems a link but cannot figure it out! As Stepson..........