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on 1861 census Ann Jordan is a widow

Name: Ann Jordan
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ludlow, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Ludford
Ecclesiastical parish: Hereford
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Ludlow
Sub-registration district: Ludlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
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Household schedule number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Jordan 55
Sarah Palmer 25
Edwin Palmer 24
Ann Jordan 18
John Pyfinch 10
Edwin Palmer 4 Mo

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can anyone help me find her in 1871, 1881 or a death, thank you everyone

Look up search for William TYEFINSH
under his name is a correction, click on that and it will show correctors comments and name.
Probably the same is valid for search trees.

I went back to correct it and found it had already been done !

lindsey, you mention albertgee47 on ancestry..........i am a member of ancestry but cannot seem to find him on there - where do you find the members

yiou might need hereford/shropshire records to go back

this might be death reg.

Name: William Grubb
Year of Registration: 1840
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Ludlow
County: Herefordshire, Shropshire
Volume: 18
Page: 67 (click

sorry I meant I couldnt find a marraige between William and mary grubb

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JOHN PYFINCH
Pedigree
Male
Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: ANN GRUBB
Family
Marriage:
15 AUG 1836 Ludlow, Shropshire, England

Where are you looking Stephen its on Familysearch.org

well, it looks like the Ann (pyefinch + then Jordan) was originally Ann Grubb b1811 ludlow to parents William and Mary Grubb.........alas I cannot find their marriage

Have you checked for mistranscription - looked with the phonetic search on?

This is a very long shot

Deaths Mar 1843 (>99%)
PEA John Ludlow 18 71

When I went to the original to check the handwriting this was a typewritten transcript. Now, I'm pretty sure they didn't have typewriters in 1843 so there's a possibility there has been a transcription error between the original and the typewritten entry. Plus you have to allow for errors at the time of the original registration.

Just a thought.....

ok.........so if we are saying John + Ann PYEFINCH were together on 1841 census and she went on to marry John Jordan in 1843..........I cannot find a death of JOhn Pyefinch between 1841-1843

SARAH PYFINCH
Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
31 OCT 1836 Ludlow, Shropshire, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN PYFINCH
Family
Mother: ANNE

The William Pyefinch on the 1851 census with John Jordan and Ann is listed as John Jordan's step-son.

So, I think it follows that if John Jordan married Ann Pyefinch in 1843 then he is her son by her first marriage to John Pyefinch which is shown on the 1841 census you have put on the thread.

If you look again at the 1861 census I posted you will see a Sarah Palmer listed there as Ann Jordan's daughter - this is likely to be the Sarah Pyefinch from the 1841 census who went on to marry Edwin Palmer.

Marriages Dec 1858 (>99%)
Palmer Edwin Ludlow 6a 1092
Pyefinch Sarah Ludlow 6a 1092

So, Sarah Pyefinch would have been John Jordan's step daughter.

PLEASE HELP ME AGAIN - THERES SOMETHING i CANT QUITE FIGURE OUT!!! THERE IS A LINK SOMEWHERE!

on my tree I also have William John Pyefinch c1835 Ludlow.........now I am confused. On 1841 census he is here:

Name: William Pyefinch
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England

Civil parish: St Lawrence
Hundred: Ludlow
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Ludlow
Sub-registration district: Ludlow
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Household Members:
Name Age
Nancy Price 40
John Pyefinch 30
Anne Pyefinch 28
William Pyefinch 7
Sarah Pyefinch 4

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but he is with Ann + John Jordan in 1851........there seems a link but cannot figure it out! As Stepson..........

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JOHN JORDAN
Pedigree
Male
Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: DECIMA THOMAS
Family
Marriage:
25 JUN 1838 Ludford, Shropshire, England


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Decima Thomas and John JORDAN
Name: Decima Thomas
Year of Registration: 1838
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Ludlow
County: Herefordshire, Shropshire
Volume: 18
Page: 167 (click to see others on

thank you for your time everyone...........I'm going off to order some certificates

Possible birth for Ann??

Births Sep 1844 (>99%)
Jordan Ann Ludlow 18 86

Ann is a widow on 1861 census, staying with her is John Pyefinch aged 10 grandson.

My line follows Ann Jordan b1843........looks like John is her father, Ann could be her mother if they married that year..........will have to try to find Anns birth record c1843 Ludford , herefordshire

Looking at the 1841 census found by Freewheel - could this be the death of John Jordan's first wife??

Deaths Mar 1842 (>99%)
JORDAN Desi_a Ludlow 18 85

followed by the re-marriage to Ann Pyefinch in 1843 as stated by Freewheel.

The original image of the 1851 looks more like 55 years old for John, so bearing in mind that ages were rounded to the nearest 5 years in the 1841 census, this is very likely your John.

'Tyefinsh' is only how the transcriber read the image - suggest you look at it yourself to see the problems he/she would have encountered.

As I stated above, he is stepson to John Jordan......................so the marriage is clearly correct, and you can find out John's age (and father's details) by purchasing the certificate,

ALso - see my comments about 1851 - and 1841 census posted above !

Possibly Anne and first husband:
1841 census
Ludlow, Shropshire
John Pyefinch, 30, shoemaker
Anne, 28
William, 7
Sarah, 4
All born in county except John.

It always pays to look at the original image , sometimes it can be a clear mistranscription, There is a facility to put in a correction for future searchers.

Stephen, I suggest that one or both of then have been married before and you should buy the marriage cert I found which will say, widow or previous married or maiden names.

Ckecking of ancestry there already is a correction and a postem which means someone else has you relative?

Pyefinch rather than Tyefinsh
This is a relative whom I have documentation to verify name is incorrectly transcribed.
Submitted by AlbertGee47 on 15/03/2008, You could ask someone on ancestry to contact him.