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can anyone decipher this 1881 census image?

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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Sep 2009 15:21

Oh, now we're drowning in Gickies.

Reece, re "Boway" -- I'm really certain he is the artist Alexander Rowan.

Unfortunately, there is no biographical info about him on the net that I could find, just a couple of listings of recently auctioned paintings. And I can't find a birth record in the GRO index.

I suspect this is his death, and he was maybe a little older than stated in censuses.

Deaths Jun 1893
Rowan Alexander 58 Camberwell 1d 432

Matches the mother's name in 1871:

ALEXANDER WILLIAM ROWEN
Christening: 02 JUL 1837 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England
Father: ALEXANDER WILLIAM ROWEN
Mother: MARY ANN
Batch No.: C041601


The 1881 census could be "Roway", someone's contemporary misreading of Rowan.

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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 4 Sep 2009 14:29

How about a red herring to go with that jerk chicken?

Found this on Curiousfox!

"Also researching the GIKIE or GICKIE family from Kettins - William GICKIE married Agnes HALIBURTON at Kettins in 1702."

And before you ask, Kettins is in Scotland.

Seems like those Gickies got around a bit.

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Reece

Reece Report 4 Sep 2009 08:39

Janey,

My curiosity got the better of me - I looked at FMP image and, just to muddy the water -

Alex Boway (?) looking at the other names on the page - the "B" looks very much like an "E" and the image is very faded but after enhancing it I still can't work out what the name is! Not much help, I know.

Off to breakfast.

Reece

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Sep 2009 04:41

enjoy your jerk chicken

hope the OH isn't/wasn't too peeved.

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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Sep 2009 04:04

Yeah, I figured, whichever, it's in Oxford, and it's Susan, so it likely isn't anything. Although "Chaundy" - French?

Nah, there are Susan / Susanna / Susannah Chaundys all over Oxford.

Time for jerk chicken fajitas! Oh, rats, that means I have to sent No.1 to the store for sour cream, and he'll be peeved ...

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Sep 2009 03:49

well now ........ from ancestry

Name: William Gickie
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Oxford
County: Berkshire, Oxfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 1031 (click to see others on page


clicking gives us:-

Susan Ellen Chaundy 1881 Oxford Berkshire, Oxfordshire
View Record
William Geikie 1881 Oxford Berkshire, Oxfordshire
View Record
William Gickie 1881 Oxford Berkshire, Oxfordshire



The transcriber for the variant spellings was the same person



sylvia

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Sep 2009 03:46

1884 eh?!

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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Sep 2009 03:40

And FreeBMD does have one "Giskie".

Births Sep 1884
Giskie Annie Mile End 1c 452

Hm!

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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Sep 2009 03:39

I stand corrected; I thought Gickie was a nonsense name!

But this (please allow me to delete all the bumph and spaces that so many people seem to want to clutter up threads with ...)

Reta GICKIE (AFN: C5Q3-C9)
Spouse: Ellis Goodfellow RUSSELL (AFN: 3BL9-M5)
Marriage: Aug 1907

-- now that is nonsense, sure. "Reta"? I know the Mormons like to create harems in the censuses, men with 2 or 3 wives, but Reta and ... oh. I'd read that as "Ellen".

Call me Emily Litella. Never mind!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Litella

"What is all this fuss I hear about the Supreme Court decision on a "deaf" penalty? It's terrible! Deaf people have enough problems as it is!"

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Sep 2009 03:32

oh heck


there's too many Gickies in Scotland!



sylvia

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Sep 2009 03:30

ancestors of the missing husband possibly?????

ANDREW GICKIE Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 21 MAY 1671 Longforgan, Perth, Scotland

Parents:
Father: JAMES GICKIE Family

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


Or what about these two

KATRIN GICKIE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 05 MAY 1685 Lundie And Fowlis, Angus, Scotland

CATHARINE GICKIE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 29 OCT 1780 Kinfauns, Perth, Scotland




sylvia

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Sep 2009 03:29

could this be a relation

Reta GICKIE (AFN: C5Q3-C9) Pedigree
Sex: F Family

Event(s)
Birth: Abt. 1890


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Parents

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Ellis Goodfellow RUSSELL (AFN: 3BL9-M5) Family
Marriage: Aug 1907

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sylvia

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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Sep 2009 03:23

Wow, Scotland!

From the Boul St Germain across the Channel ... by steamer up the Thames ... and then hitchhiking north ...

:rofl:

Good one!

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Sep 2009 03:17

I thought the surname might be Giskie


sylvia

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Sep 2009 03:15

Thanks for the email Janey

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Sep 2009 03:12

what fun!


lots of candidates for the position




sylvia

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Mistycat

Mistycat Report 4 Sep 2009 02:50

!!!!!!!!!!! Could she be in Scotland and England.....!!!!!! or maybe I should be in bed...!!! ;)

1881 Scotland Census about Lillian McKinley
Name: Lillian McKinley
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Paris
Registration Number: 685/2
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil parish: St Andrew
County: Midlothian
Address: 28 Greenside St
Occupation: ****** Photographic Artiste*******
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 74
Line: 5
Roll: cssct1881_284
Household Members:
Name Age
Clara Manson 40
Minnie Manson 15
Jane Jooreans 9
Clara Manson 7
James Manson 7
Harry Sullivan 34
Fanny Sullivan 25
Fanny Sullivan 3
Maggie Sullivan 10 Months
Catherine Sullivan 28
Lillian McKinley 20

Misty x

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Sep 2009 02:42

But leaving aside Ms. Gickie, I may just have a better theory.


1881

Name: Lila L. Morley
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
(too old - but hey, "you can't trust censuses"!)
Relation: Boarder
Where born: (F), France

Civil parish: Marylebone

Street Address: 29 Charlotte St
Condition as to marriage: Married
> > Occupation: Dressmaker


Elias Ansorge 38
Julie Ansorge 33
Felicity Ansorge 14
Esther Ansorge 13
Annie Thorpe 23
Leopold Bonvalet 29
Abel Inquinbert 27
Ethel Rainsford 21
Lila L. Morley 24


Awfully respectable looking household, though.

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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Sep 2009 02:31

But the big question remains - what was Lillian's surname??

Gickie ... I think not ...

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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Sep 2009 02:21

Alive and unmarried in 1891, so not the deceased hubby ... if anyone was:

Name: Alexander Rowan
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Lodger
Where born: Bayswater, London, England

Civil parish: Camberwell

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