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Congratulations! Slogging gets you there much of the time. ;)

Since the other Whitlarks seem to have departed to the US, your Ada may be like my Frances: last one of the surname to die in England.

www.192.com (telephone and electoral roll listings) for Whitlark:
"We are sorry but no results matched your search"

At least your Ada's name is entered correctly so that record is there ...

Ive found Adas death! 1941 london! was untranscribed

thanks for all your help :)

Extinct names - there's the odd Rushland in the US too, I think, but I suspect they come from a Scottish line. Mine is Lincolnshire in the 1700s. There are a scad of them in the IGI in that century, but by 1800 there was only my last Berry Rushland left, and he had multiple daughters but only two sons, who didn't reproduce. My Rushland grx3 grmother set up house with her sister's widower after her sister died. ;)

(I was just inspired to try to find Frances Rushland's death - she's at FreeBMD as Francis Rusland, and dang, I can't correct the surname, to make it properly the last Rushland in the records, because it actually says Rusland.)

Here we are! Outbound Whitlarks - complete list (barring mistranscriptions) 1890 to 1960.

First date is DOB, second date is date of travel.

WHITLARK 1866 F 1895 London Madeira Madeira
WHITLARK 1890 M 1895 London Madeira Madeira
WHITLARK J 1863 M 1895 London Madeira Madeira
WHITLARK V 1894 F 1895 London Madeira Madeira
WHITLARK I 1867 M 1899 Southampton South Africa Cape
> WHITLARK John Unknown M 1910 London Australia Sydney
> WHITLARK Morton A 1896 M 1913 London Australia Sydney
> WHITLARK Ada E 1873 F 1924 London Australia Melbourne
> WHITLARK Ada E 1873 F 1924 London Australia Sydney
WHITLARK Alice C 1927 F 1946 Southampton USA New York
WHITLARK Laurie W 1946 M 1946 Southampton USA New York


http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action

Sue - see 1911 census on previous page -- Ada and the kids were still in England in 1911, but it seems husband/father Whitlark had gone on ahead.

Since Phyllis married in England, had they left her behind, or did she return to England from Australia and marry?


Ah - just noticed the part about Jr and Sr enrolling in military -- one suspects that Ada and Phyllis didn't accompany Jr to Australia either? Phyllis might actually only have gone out when her husband died.

What about looking at Electoral Rolls

Cheers Sue

these whitlarks are wierd! when the boys signed up to the military they both gave their next of kin as ada emily but her address as the white house kew london that was in 1915, but then she is on the 1930 NSW census as living with John Ashton?

all the whitlarks around are all in usa I might get the england phone books out tomorrow and have a look. Funny rushland is extinct, I would have thought there would still be someone in england called rushland, ill check that too tomorrow!

Can't see Ada arriving



Mr. Whitlark Sydney, New South Wales
26 Mar 1891 Innamincka


J Whitlark Sydney, New South Wales
9 Jan 1909 Pericles

J Whitlark Sydney, New South Wales
19 Jan 1911 Ophir


M Whitlark Sydney, New South Wales
21 Oct 1913 Geelong

The address intending to stay at is stated on the shipping record.

how did you know what address she was going to? Argyle Road is in ealing london and its still there! how do I find out who was living there? I think I have to look at the census or something

You're all so clever!

Re dob for AE Whitlark - the record would likely state an age rather than a DOB -- 63 could have been misread or mistranscribed as 33. I don't have access to Ancestry UK deluxe or I'd look -- hopefully Sue will! If it does say 33, it could still have been mistranscribed into the passenger list, I would think.


edit - Just saw your correction, Sue; good stuff!

Hi

Just updated my post the age has been mistranscribed,she is down as 63

Cheers Sue

Just on a side note, Sophie -- is Whitlark now an extinct name in England?

There are two births in 1945, sisters, in Yeovil district. Both girls. The lastest male marriage is the matching 1945 marriage in Bournmouth - oops, no, there is one in 1969, but there seem to be no births to that marriage.

Just curious since I have one -- Rushland, which became extinct in England around the two sons of my grx4 grandfather Rushland died childless in the early 1800s.

I saw that record for ada returning I assume that must be her there aren't many whitlarks going to Oz. I wondered if her dob is 1873 they mixed up the 1903? or she just looked good for her age??

Sophie - my money is on that AE Whitlark returning to England in 1936 being your Ada.

That means scouring the untranscribed images at Ancestry for her death between 1936 and 1984.

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=8966

Or waiting for Ancestry to transcribe deaths for that period, which shouldn't be long now.

Sue -- Can you see the image? That's just too coincidental - the name and date.

Ada would have been 63ish. Any chance of a mistranscription?

hiya my grandfather was douglas hamilton watson-wood c. 1921

His mum and dad Douglas Harold Watson-Wood c. 1885
Mum Phyllis Lilian Whitlark c. 1902. Died at sea around 1924. no records found of the death.

Phyllis Mum Ada Emily Wise c. 1873 married John Ashton Whitlark c. 1869.

They moved to Australia in 1913. They had 2 children Phyllis and Morton Ashton Whitlark c. 1897.

Morton Ashton and John Ashton joined the Australian Military together on the same date at the same place in 1915.

They were both returned to Australia in 1919.

No record of Morton Ashton after this date.

Ada Emily and John lived in Lilli Pilli NSW until 1936. He died in march 1936. I don't know if Ada stayed or went home to London. Can't find a death record for her here or in Australia.

So, I have no death record for Phyllis Watson-Wood or Wood, died at sea.
No death record for Ada Emily Whitlark.
No records of anything for Morton Ashton Whitlark although he was alive at the time of his fathers death in 1936??

They can't have all disappeared?

Aha! so not drowned en route?

Oh, no, oops, that was Phyllis ...

Ada returned to England in 1936

Name: Mrs A E Whitlark
Birth Date: abt 1903
Age: 33
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 31 Dec 1936
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Fremantle, Colombo, Port Said, Toulon, Villefranche and Gibraltar
Ship Name: Orontes

Whoops wrong year of birth,do you know who this is.
Ok just had a look at the original and her age is 63 not 33 and her address that she is going to is
53 Argyle Rd,W13