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Thanks ever so much for your help I'll order that one and see where I go
Best Wishes

Sorry fledgling - got it the wrong way round this is the one that I meant to say that I thought was your man!!

Births Mar 1880 (>99%)
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Hodges Frank Ernest Barton R 6a 152


Also about Barton Regis

BARTON REGIS REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Gloucestershire.
Created : 1.4.1877 (out of Clifton district).
Abolished : 1.1.1905 (succeded by Bristol, Chipping Sodbury and Thornbury districts).
Sub-districts : Ashley; Clifton; St. George; St. Phillip & Jacob; Stapleton; Westbury; Winterborne.
GRO volumes : 6a (1877-1904).

Township or Civil Parish
County
From
To
Notes

Bristol St. George
GLS
1837
1898
after 1898 see Bristol (in Bristol district)

Bristol St. James & St. Paul Out
GLS
1837
1896
after 1896 see North Bristol

Bristol St. Philip & St. Jacob Out
GLS
1837
1896
after 1896 see North Bristol

Clifton
GLS
1877
1896
after 1896 see North Bristol

Compton Greenfield
GLS
1877
1886
after 1886 see Henbury

Filton
GLS
1877
1904

Henbury
GLS
1877
1904

Horfield
GLS
1877
1904
after 1904 see Bristol

North Bristol
GLS
1896
1898
before 1896 see Bristol St. James & St. Paul Out; Bristol St. Philip & St. Jacob Out; Clifton; Henbury; Redland; Shirehampton / after 1898 see Bristol (in Bristol district)

Redland
GLS
1894
1896
before 1894 see Westbury / after 1896 see North Bristol

Shirehampton
GLS
1877
1904
after 1904 see Bristol (in Bristol district)

Stapleton
GLS
1877
1898
after 1898 see Bristol (in Bristol district)

Stoke Gifford
GLS
1877
1904

Westbury on Trym
GLS
1877
1904
after 1904 see Bristol (in Bristol district)

Winterbourne
GLS
1877
1904


Registers now in Bristol district.

Oh :( I was just looking up Barton Regis and it was abolished as a registration district in early 1900's but was it was around it covered St John St Philip Bristol which is where William was living around that time . In all records re Frank hes an Ernest not thomas / wonder if its just got changed in transcription?

Don't think it is thesecond one - have just looked on ancestry and I think in 1901 he is the one living with mother Emma.


EDIT

Sorry definately the first one as he is Francis E Hodges on the 1891 census.

Couple of possibles for Frank - if his birth was registered in the same area as Lincoln's.

Births Dec 1878 (>99%)
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HODGES Francis Thomas Barton R. 6a 107



Births Mar 1880 (>99%)
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Hodges Frank Ernest Barton R 6a 152


If you specify the father's name when ordering, I think they refund some of the fee if it is not the correct entry?

Hello
Well thought if going to order certificate on Williams children I should get Francis E ( Ernest) Hodges from 1891 cencus ( Philips and Christophers brother) as its Francis ( recorded on future cencus and known as Frank) that I'm related to ..... but I can't find him !! been looking on ancestry , He should be 1879 ish if Philips 1877 . Thankyou so much everyone for all the help so far - I'll get Philips if can't find Frank .
Best Wishes
Fledgling :)

Thanks thats Philip then and Christopher Lincolns the right one to .. noticed in one cencus the've got lincoln and next Christopher so at least I know its the same child ! Popping up to school now ... going to be late !!! Will order birth certificate when back in a bit - Thank you for all this help

Right! Looks like Philip was born in Bristol

Births Dec 1877 (>99%)
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HODGES Philip William Bristol 6a 41



but I can't see a marriage coming up there!!!!!!!! for William and Mary J - Of course, we are assuming that they married!

Haven't found anything on Orchard yet either.

Given Philip's age on the 1891 census this is the only one that I can see on freebmd?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1873 (>99%)
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BREWIN Mary Jane Leicester 7a 430
Hodges William Leicester 7a 430


Perhaps a safer route to go down first is to buy the birth certificate for one of the children to get the mother's maiden surname.


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1884 (>99%)
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Hodges Lincoln Christopher Barton R. 6a 147

Thank you both for replys
I need to find marriage certificate for William Hodges 1844 c and Mary Jane (?) 1848 c to get William and Henrys father don't I as we're prob not going to find it from cencus record . The marriage most likely must have been in Bristol as thats where he was living aged 17 and by 1871 cencus hes married to 'Mary Jane'
living St Philip and St jacob Bristol and they had a daughter Louisa .. who died young think I've found death record explaining why shes not on subsequent cencus record) and all other records we've found him on thereafter. My mum also thought one of her fathers grandparents was called 'Orchard' ... this Mary is the only one left who could be that Orchard maybe?

Rootgather ...On the previous marriage you'd kindly found with William Hodges and Mary J Mattick both say Bath which could be right for him but sure Marys would say Bristol

HARRIETTE HODGES Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 06 OCT 1782 Stroud, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RICHARD HODGES Family
Mother: DAMARIS


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

not suspiciously by any means - confusedly rather!!!!

No problem about name change as I had already posted, your thread stayed in the "My Threads" for me.

These boys are certainly seeming elusive in 1851! Iam wondering do you have William's marriage certificate or are we needing to find that to get his father's name and occupation? I am think that if the boys were perhaps orphaned at a young age then the place of birth may not be accurate.

Thanks root gatherer ... just incase you get confused by name change too its still me but i just gave myself a 'community name' to protect privacey and felt i was given a hard time :( , as you know I'm new to this and didn't expect to be traeted so suspiciouslly. But thank you lots for looking for me as you can see from finding them both now in 1861 its 1851 where I need to find them . The one found I posted for 1851 has a William born in Towton Somerset... but dates a bit out too ! Confusing isn't it ?

I have been trawling the 1851 census - without much success- looking for Hodges with a son William and a son Henry.

I found this one but not sure about it! The father is a railway worker.

Name: William Hodges
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Stroud, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Minety
Ecclesiastical parish: Gloucester and Malmesbury
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Malmesbury
Sub-registration district: Malmesbury Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
William Hodges 33
Mary Hodges 33
Harriet Hodges 7
William Hodges 5
Henry Hodges 4
Louisa Hodges 1


EDIT

Forgot to say - both parents born in Somerset.

Thankyou for that ! Phew All done now bar tree which I'll sort tomorrow . Yes traced them to Devon , Ideford so far . Apparently we used to have an 'a' or so i was told as a child but I havn't found it yet .

Whoops, I got the impression you'd done the whole job, but you haven't, and I imagine you will want to.

Click on your username. Look what you see. I think you will want to change it. Note what you see when you click on my username.

Go to "My account" in the upper right above this thread. You'll have to give your password again. Delete your given name and put fledgling. Delete your birth surname, if it's there. Delete your surname. Substitute something for your surname: an x or a dot will do.

That almost finishes the job of correcting the egregious privacy violations this site commits. You still need to remove your name from your tree and substitute something else for it (I don't recommend using your username, as searching trees for that would then disclose your birth details). Otherwise, when you send or receive a private message, there's a 50% chance your name will show up as the "relation" of whoever you correspond with, in their contacts list.

Meanwhile, does your family name happen to come from Devon/Cornwall? ;) It was my grx2 grfather's and his brother's middle name and I suspect his mother's surname, but spelled with an 'a' mostly/later.

I've done that thanks .. some replied to my name and I can't edit those but changed all i can .

Ah, then another tip - I do this when an old thread I've posted in resurfaces.

Go to the posts that still have your name-name on them (I'm going to delete your name-name from my posts because I do take privacy very seriously), click edit, then click submit. The username on them will change to your current username, and all the confusion will be gone!

Oh lordy ...I started the thread yesterday as ..then today I've given myself a community name . I edited the first post this evening ... where it 'says started the post yesterday but got stuck' so my name comes up as fledgling because i edited it this evening (following the advice that someone had put on another thread) as the rest of the post and replys were yesterday my name comes up as ...
I just gave myself a community name thats all ... sorry its caused this