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Hi all, iv just received a birth certificate for a martha riley born 1875 grt crosby, but i think i have got the wrong one, im trying to work out her family who i think is a margaret (1836) and a stephen riley (1823) they were born in ireland co caven stephen i believe was blind and i am unable to locate them before 1871, as i say the birth certificate i think for martha is wrong firstly it gives me diffrent parents and also it says she was born west derby and i cant find another birth for her can anyone help me please, i seem to have loads of irish ancestes now and have no idea where to look. im in the same boat with her husband william pearmans parents
thanks regards bex

Have you located her on later census with her parents,hopefully this will tell you her place of birth

What lead you to send for this birth cert in the first place?

What other info do you have on the family?


Dea x

yes have found her in 1881 and 1891 with her parents and 1901 with her husband william, she was from grt crosby lancashire parents are from co caven ireland. martha was age 6 in 1881 her mum was widowed age 45 she was a charwoman, i thought the certificate i was getting may be rite as there was only 1 in 1875 but it didnt say her dad was stephen riley and her marrige certificate did?
regards bex

hi dea, i wanted to see if it would give me any more details on family coz i cant get any further with martha riley of her husband william pearman so i thought if i got her birth certificate it would give me her mothers name and then maybe i could get a little further with her parents
regards bex

Is this the cert you sent for?


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Births Jun 1875 (>99%)
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Riley Martha West Derby 8b 467

her age on the census is at her last birthday so at aged 6 she could be having her 7th birthday in 1881 so you should also check for a birth c 1874

yes thats the certificate i got.....
oh i didnt realise that thanku
regards bex

Stephen Riley died 1881,William Pearman 1877-1911 born Ireland his parents were William 1844 Kings Lynn Norfolk and Ellen 1854 ireland.

Info off tree on Ancestry.

Maryb

Some hard info does help.


1871

Stephen Reilly 48
Margaret Reilly 35
Lawrence Reilly 14
Jane Reilly 11
Eliza Reilly 7
William Reilly 2
Sandy Smith 43


These are your people, you think?

Useful to know that the name is spelled REILLY in 1871 ...


Not to mention in 1881

Margaret Reilly 45
Elizabeth Reilly 18
William Reilly 12
Stephen Reilly 8
Martha Reilly 6
Samuel Lyons 53


Civil parish: Great Crosby
in both years.

[1881 info added to post above]

oh ok thanku, have found stephen riley with his wife margaret in 1861 they had a son lawrence age 4 from grt crosby so im guessing they must have moved from ireland to grt crosby lancashire just before 1861
regards bex

What names do you have for parents on the certificate you have received?

oh its spelt riley in 1891, thanku very useful to no diffrent spelling
thanks
bex

Do you have Martha's marriage certificate? That's where you really need to start, to see what it says for her father's name. Otherwise you could be tracking the wrong Martha around the censuses!

names on the certificate i have got are john riley and rebecca riley formaly humphreys residence workhouse walton
regards
bex

yes i do it says stephen riley but was trying to get martha mums maiden name
regards bex

Ah, okay, so you do have Stephen from there.

Have you identified the births of any of the other children? If you got one and the father was Stephen, you could be pretty sure it was a sibling of Martha.

1851 a Stephen Ryley born ireland 1823 lodging in Great Crosby,possible marriage to Margaret Foster to Stephen Reilly J/F/M 1856 in Liverpool West Derby Lancs 8b page 61.

Maryb

Lawrence?


Births Mar 1857
Reilly Lawrence W Derby 8b 377