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Again - I was not trying to test anyone. I threw all my notes across the room and started again.
would it therefore be safe to assume that their is only one henry but 2 wifes? and 2nd one came along after first died? or that their is another henry perhaps a siblings child?? Thats the bit i am stuck on
The above isnt a test either, if he married twice then i have it
if he didnt then i havent got it. and i dont know - call me a dumbass or any other name u like.. I was in a dark place and somone is holding the dimmer switch and i want them to turn it up - so i can see the light.
Not trying to rock the boat it was a genuine wipe it clean and start again.
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Now, there is a christening for Elzabeth Wallis and note the fathers name.......a form of Christopher perhaps? :-
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ELIZ. WALLIS Pedigree
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
08 NOV 1719 Hackness, Yorkshire, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: XTOPHERI WALLIS Family
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
P007921 1566 - 1783 0844554 Film 6900688 Film
P007921 1566 - 1783 0844554 Film NONE
P007921 1566 - 1783 0844554 Film NONE
P007921 1566 - 1783 0844554 Film NONE
Sheet: 00
If the Henry that she married was this one, then he would be 12 years her senior? :-
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HENRICUS COCKERELL Pedigree
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
17 FEB 1707 Hackness, Yorkshire, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: HEN. COCKERELL Family
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
P007921 1566 - 1783 0844554 Film 6900688 Film
P007921 1566 - 1783 0844554 Film NONE
P007921 1566 - 1783 0844554 Film NONE
P007921 1566 - 1783 0844554 Film NONE
Sheet: 00
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"I assumed because i am only a 4 week veteran, that they had their tree wrong or that their were 2 henrys etc. Also Family search doesnt help with them inputting stuff as Henry?henrici etc."
Arthur
I have been researching my Cotterells, in all their various spellings, for over 6 YEARS!
Just one word of advice
NEVER ever assume anything in this game
Second marriages are always on the scene .... people married young (12 for girls, 14 for men), childbirth was very dangerous, bearing many children wore out the woman but not the man, "old" men married young girls (think Henry VIII), names are never spelled as you think they should be
Remember that the majority of our ancestors were illiterate, even upto 1900. At many times in English history less than 5% of the populaton would be able to read and write ...... and they were mainly men who had received religious training and some members of the upper aristocracy.
Then there was the transformation in language from whatever predated Saxon, to Saxon, to Norman, to where Latin was the every day language, to Olde Englishe, to all the dialects found in the UK .......................... and you can understand how we find all these varied spellings of names.
If they were spelt wrongly, even until the early years of the 20th century, our ancestors were probably unable to read well enough to correct the mistake!
sylvia
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I have looked at all the henry cockerills in hackness area and i have the following
4. HENRICUS COCKERELL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 24 OCT 1697 Hackness, Yorkshire, England
7. HENRICUS COCKERELL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 14 JUN 1702 Hackness, Yorkshire, England
10. HENRICUS COCKERELL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 17 FEB 1707 Hackness, Yorkshire, England
i could rule ths one out due to the area - again unsure
11. HENRY COCKERILL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 21 DEC 1707 St Laurence, Scalby Near Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
& these 2 which i have ruled out because they are too young to be wed in time for Cristopher Cockerill b1757 - just a guess
19. HENRY COCKERILL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 08 FEB 1737 Hackness, Yorkshire, England
20. Henry Cockerill - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 03 MAY 1739 Hackness, Yorkshire, England
I then have this issue 4 weddings and not a clue.
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HENERICUS COCKERELL Pedigree
Male Family
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETHA CROSS Family
Marriage: 24 NOV 1730 Hackness, Yorkshire, England
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Henry Cockerill Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth: About 1707 Of, Suffield, Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
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Marriages:
Spouse: Sarah Wilkinson Family
Marriage: 30 NOV 1732 Hackness, Yorkshire, England
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HENERY COCKERILL Pedigree
Male Family
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH WALLIS Family
Marriage: 04 AUG 1745 Hackness, Yorkshire, England
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HENRY COCKERILL Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
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Marriages:
Spouse: MARY BUTLER Family
Marriage: 16 OCT 1759 Hackness, Yorkshire, England
So whats the best foot forward method now ?
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Did you take note that Elizabeth Wallis' father was called Xtopheri which I believe would be Christopher and that is a name that has been handed down for a couple of generations in the Cockerill family. I am not saying that it is definately the correct marriage but it could well be a clue.
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I did. and i guessed as much from the dates of birth & Marriage, just wanted to make sure i was thinking correctly. Thanks for the help.
A
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Just for info............. a few distances between the different places
From: Scalby, Scarborough
To: Hackness, Scarborough
Distance: 3.1 miles
From: Scalby, Scarborough
To: Hutton Buscel, Scarborough
Distance: 6.5 miles
From: Hutton Buscel, Scarborough
To: Hackness, Scarborough
Distance: 5.5 miles
From: Egton, Whitby
To: Hackness, Scarborough
Distance: 26.4 miles
From: Hutton Buscel, Scarborough
To: Egton, Whitby
Distance: 29.7 miles
I put the last two in because of this entry......wasn't sure if it was worth considering
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HENRY COCKRILL Pedigree
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
05 DEC 1722 Egton, Yorkshire, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: ROBERT COCKRILL Family
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
P012101 1617 - 1812 0098531 Film NONE
P012101 1628 - 1812 0098531 Film NONE
Sheet: 00
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Hmmm i think this is driving me mad.
Anything is possible. More research is going to be needed i think. An maybe i will have to splash the cash. if i cant work it out.
Again thanks
A
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